So what you’re saying is there’s a minority, with fewer people to turn to, and we shouldn’t help them because there are “more pressing issues”… Please tell me you see the irony?
Wasn’t the whole point the rid the word of that exact feeling of helplessness and isolation?
Physically injured? Sure. But domestic abuse against men tends to be more psychological then physical, so it’s a bit of a bad comparison. And that’s not to mention how the statistics are skewed from men not reporting their problems because it goes against common societal views.
yeah, ironically one of the factor of men being more violent is society don’t showing them, or teaching them, how to cope with emotions in a health way, and the commenter is an example of men being less heard because always someone gonna dismiss the problem, i’m a fully beliver that if men were heard more, abuses toward woman could also fall
It’s treating a minority population of an issue differently. Just because a group is statistically less likely to be impacted doesn’t mean they shouldn’t receive the same resources for help.
Please explain how they’re correct. Men are the smaller group in the statistics being cited. I didn’t think that majority and minority needed to be explained. It’s not a matter of how the groups are treated. It explains the size of their population.
They are a minority in the statistics being cited here. You’re either not comprehending what the word minority means or you’re purposefully misusing it yourself.
Also just straight up a minority in general (from a US perspective), though only by a very slight margin. US population is ~51.5/48.5 in favor of women. Though on a worldwide scale men are instead a slight majority and women a slight minority.
The resource is provided to the majority case where the woman is the victim. It tries to help a demographic that is statistically more in need.
Everyone should receive help, as also stated in the comment, but to fault the algorithm for not providing the resource to the minority case can be compared to asserting that “all lives matter” in a police brutality context. They do, but white people aren’t as often victimized so you can’t fault someone for focusing their support on the black community.
I’m for providing support for male victims of domestic abuse just as I’m for supporting white victims of police brutality but you shouldn’t get worked up over people prioritizing helping the demographic that needs it the most
You are mistaken that the discrepancy is the result of algorithmic bias. The latter image depicts a custom, hard-coded result that appears when one of preselected set of queries are searched. It was added as part of an anti-domestic violence drive. The trouble is, adding a copy of the selected queries with substituted gendered language (e.g., substituting “husband” with “wife”, “man” with “woman”, etc.) would have taken all of 10 minutes. It’s not surprising that most are unsympathetic to this excuse.
Statistics don’t make double standards ok.
It seems like you’re attempting to say this kind of thing is ok because “only” 25% of men are victims.
Shameful.
It’s not a double standard, it’s a recognition that a woman is far more likely to end up physically injured than a man
So what you’re saying is there’s a minority, with fewer people to turn to, and we shouldn’t help them because there are “more pressing issues”… Please tell me you see the irony?
Wasn’t the whole point the rid the word of that exact feeling of helplessness and isolation?
It’s actively blaming the man for the woman yelling.
It’s like calling someone a dumbfuck at their funeral for dying of hypothermia in the summer.
If you don’t want male abuse being brought up on female abuse topics, then maybe shut the fuck up about female abuse on male abuse topics.
And where exactly have I done that?
The reply of you that I replied to, towards the guy who replied to someone doing the same thing.
Physically injured? Sure. But domestic abuse against men tends to be more psychological then physical, so it’s a bit of a bad comparison. And that’s not to mention how the statistics are skewed from men not reporting their problems because it goes against common societal views.
yeah, ironically one of the factor of men being more violent is society don’t showing them, or teaching them, how to cope with emotions in a health way, and the commenter is an example of men being less heard because always someone gonna dismiss the problem, i’m a fully beliver that if men were heard more, abuses toward woman could also fall
Yikes. Seek help, please.
It’s treating a minority population of an issue differently. Just because a group is statistically less likely to be impacted doesn’t mean they shouldn’t receive the same resources for help.
This person just called MEN A MINORITY POPULATION
I’M FUCKING DYING 🤣
Somebody can’t read…
You’re totally right of course.
This place is so hilariously extreme it makes Reddit takes look normal.
Please explain how they’re correct. Men are the smaller group in the statistics being cited. I didn’t think that majority and minority needed to be explained. It’s not a matter of how the groups are treated. It explains the size of their population.
No, he called men as a percentage of total domestic violence victims a minority pipulation. Your reading comprehension is… lacking.
They are a minority in the statistics being cited here. You’re either not comprehending what the word minority means or you’re purposefully misusing it yourself.
Also just straight up a minority in general (from a US perspective), though only by a very slight margin. US population is ~51.5/48.5 in favor of women. Though on a worldwide scale men are instead a slight majority and women a slight minority.
His argument is the exact same argument people use to justify racism.
You did not just. Lmao.
Get some perspective.
It’s literally the 13/50 shit bro,
“Despite being half of the population, 94% of murder suicides are caused by men.”
That’s what you just said.
That statistic didn’t say anything about the perpetrator’s gender. Stop trying to create controversy where there is none.
Except one is “most cases are like this, so let’s help them”, and the other is “most cases are like this, so let’s hurt them”
It isn’t though? The post is advocating that everyone should receive help, while the comment is trying to justify the way it currently is.
The resource is provided to the majority case where the woman is the victim. It tries to help a demographic that is statistically more in need.
Everyone should receive help, as also stated in the comment, but to fault the algorithm for not providing the resource to the minority case can be compared to asserting that “all lives matter” in a police brutality context. They do, but white people aren’t as often victimized so you can’t fault someone for focusing their support on the black community.
I’m for providing support for male victims of domestic abuse just as I’m for supporting white victims of police brutality but you shouldn’t get worked up over people prioritizing helping the demographic that needs it the most
You are mistaken that the discrepancy is the result of algorithmic bias. The latter image depicts a custom, hard-coded result that appears when one of preselected set of queries are searched. It was added as part of an anti-domestic violence drive. The trouble is, adding a copy of the selected queries with substituted gendered language (e.g., substituting “husband” with “wife”, “man” with “woman”, etc.) would have taken all of 10 minutes. It’s not surprising that most are unsympathetic to this excuse.