US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China’s space program::undefined
So this is the power of diversity
What? Your comment doesn’t even make sense!
Are you trying to say NASA hires “too many women, LGBTs and brown people”, and that this is holding them back?
Is there something about straight, white cis males that makes them better at rocket science?
Well, Braun was a Nazi…
I don’t believe in racial science and “superiority”, however I refer to hiring based on only merit and not just for the sake of fulfilling a diversity quota. The tech industry has suffered enough because of this.
This is the power of not funding your space program and actively destroying your own educational system, which is where things like engineers and scientists come from in the first place.
If they were truly concerned, they’d start giving it the funding it deserves.
Yeah, but Israel /s
That goes double for our educational system, which has been aggressively gutted by the GOP: People aren’t just born engineers and scientists.
I came here to say exactly this.
Perhaps a space race with China would rekindle the motivation for our money grubbing demagogues to actually fund it.
No, it won’t. They’ll just relocate to China, or maybe a super yacht out in international waters. They’ll continue milking every last cent out of the US until it’s a dead dried up husk of a nation and then they’ll just move to the next one. Their supporters are too stupid to realize where the end of the path they’ve been told to walk is going to take them, and they’d rather blame anyone else but themselves for all the problems they face. So no, a space race with China won’t fix shit.
Judging by the state of the US, you’re much more likely to be right than I am, you cynical bastard!
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They’ve tried everything except actually funding NASA, and they’re all outta ideas.
NOTE: China WILL overtake NASA, the same way they are dominating the renewable energy sector — because they invest heavily in science. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand this shit.
But hey we tried giving a shit load of money to a billionaire space nazi instead!
Won’t someone think of the investors!
Unfortunately that company is the best hope we have to stay ahead. With their low cost they can monopolize the worldwide launch market(except Russia and China). So that funding, strategically, must continue.
What should also happen is funding spacex competitors, so we stay on the bleeding edge.
Is China staying on the bleeding edge by funding a bunch of private companies?
Maybe we need to give more to the space phallus that the other asshole billionaire built. Maybe that’ll fix it.
Maybe we should give money to fund education and research instead of banning books and attacking each other.
Don’t worry guys, the US Space Force will make sure they are prevented from entering space.
While US youth are rotting their brains via china’s tiktok, Chinese youth are actually learning about science and other useful skills. Of course this is going to happen
Wait. This is a joke right? You really think all youth in america is just messing around on tiktok (yeah just forget facebook, twitter, myspace, instagram and whatever other social media we’ve had) and ALL youth in china is doing science?
No but I do believe this is the intended purpose of tiktok
Best summary.
We’re in the second cold war right now and nobody is talking about it. How is tiktok still on the app stores?
Someones getting paid.
It’s so obvious.
Choosing Musk and SpaceX for Artemis is likely NASAs biggest mistake.
SpaceX has launched more successful missions this year than every other space agency put together.
Fuck Musk and all that, but if you’re posting this bullshit, you have Musk derangement syndrome.
At least for ISS, the choice is either Musk or Putin.
I don’t know which one is worse, especially considering Musk is aiding Putin via Starlink in Ukraine.
Ukraine claims Russian forces using Musk’s Starlink in occupied areas
But as someone who works in the industry, it is a bleak outlook. NASA absolutely needs more funding for its human spaceflight exploration, Earth Science, robotic exploration, and astronomy/astrophysics.
NASA is a fraud. Musk is just the latest goofy face of govt black projects. Keyfabe
If you look at the Artemis mission and think starship is the weakest part of the plan, you are simply not being objective.
It was always part of Musk’s plan to cripple NASA funding and pump that money into SpaceX.
I’m sure throwing more money and contracts at Musk and SpaceX is going to help solve the problem any day now. /s
We all live on this rock. Floating through space.
Anyone who doesn’t want to spend more time looking out is someone with something in their closet you don’t want to look in.
Ad Aspera Ad Astra
“To thorns, to stars”?..
theythey have the qote mixed up its Ad Astra Per Aspare, To the stars through dificalties… you see it everywhere in Kansas
Why in Kansas? EDIT: Oh, googled it.
State Motto… do not ask me why it is the state motto, because I have absolutly no Idea
“Just keep going”
Ad Astra Per Aspera
Going for the Starfleet quote, sorry my Latin is lacking
well, I think he meant: Per aspera ad astra
just remember that almost all older languages had fewer nouns and verbs, so “thorns” here is referring to difficulty and obstruction
so more meaningfully translated, this old Latin saying is closer to “through great treachery is the path to the stars”
They’re worried another nation will expose the blatant lie NASA is perpetrating
Huh. I wonder if funding NASA better might help, Republicans?
Instead, I think we should defund China.
rapturous GOP applause and cheering
They are likely going to fund it less and give more and more of its mission over to space force and private companies is my guess
That would also work.
The only thing that won’t work for space is the thing we’re doing now:
- Maintaining a vice-like government control
- Using that government authority to choose not to move forward
Progress only stops under a narrow set of conditions that need to be actively implemented by the government. Progress is actually natural, and progress stopping requires enormous centralized effort to interfere with people getting things done.
I disagree privitizing space will do absolutly nothing but lead to balooned costs and stagnation.
Theoretically private programs would be an increased cost over a NASA only program since private companies want a profit margin.
But Congress being what it is tends to require NASA programs to create jobs in a lot of different voting districts across the country which leads to an insane amount of inefficiencies.
We can’t have nice things because of pork barrel politics.
Private Companies however have no insintive to actualy innovate, if you look at them they are all taking decades old NASA and USSR Space program tech and resuing it … and callling it innovation
Switch the funding for the MIC and NASA for one year. We’ll have fusion power cracked in 5.
If we fold it into the space force and say it’s for targeting woke weirdos…we’ll get a billion dollars through congress by tomorrow
We could just say the “anti-woke” part and not even bother with the space force part and that would probably work.
The woke boogieman is the biggest thing to scare them in years.
The woke boogeyman scares us because it, itself, is a set of false threats that are distracting us from real threats.
Like, we’re worried about war, a shifting global power structure, the degradation of systems of detente that keep the worst in humanity from emerging, and the woke crowd wants us to treat the feelings of exclusion of trans people as the most important threat on the board.
The woke movement is a boogeyman movement, and that’s why we treat it as dangerous. The woke movement is a push to get new boogeymen added to our threat list and moved to top priority over things we know will actually kill us.
And thing that really, really scares us, is that the system that has proven to be the salve for the ills of massive unleashed violence, the system we call free market economics, is being targeted by the woke crowd because they refuse to read the history of the things they’re proposing. They’re all like “we don’t want people to suffer so let’s abolish private property”. That’s like saying “we don’t want people to drown, and people tend to drown when they’re near boats, so let’s destroy this boat we’re all in, to prevent drowning!”
It’s terrifying to us because there are serious things to be afraid of, and the woke movement is asking us to ignore or even embrace those things.
There is no “woke movement.” That’s exactly why you’re scared of a boogieman. They don’t exist either.
Call it “search for extraterrestrial woke intelligence” and they’ll melt.
Intelligence that doesn’t come from jeebus?! They’ll burn that ark before it leaves the ground
Search for god or his patio or whatever…now you’ve got Midwest money
“Search for extraterrestrial divine intelligence” or “a strategy to get closer to God through space colonization”, say, a Stanford torus in some L point (that’s so expensive that it ain’t gonna happen, but they’ll also be very excited, I think).
NASA and all it’s bureaucracy was overtaken by private corps years ago.
Looking at their space station, I think China already has overtaken NASA.
Their station has like three modules (with plans to add 3 more) and capacity for 3 people. The ISS has at least 16 modules (maybe over 30 depending on what you count as a module) and capacity for over a dozen people.
Like many things from authoritarian countries, it looks nice but isn’t even close in terms of capabilities.
Authoritarianism is not equal to capabilities. In fact, the Soviet space program was significantly more capable for a very long time
Have they considered renaming it X and firing all their expert staff to make NASA more profitable?
SpaceX is already a thing. What is it with Elon Musk and the letter X?
Anyone concerned that the US will be “overtaken” by anything coming out of China right now needs to go read about what’s been happening in China for the last 5 years.
What do you mean?
If you watch anything other than chinadaily (the CCPs propaganda channel) you’d know exactly what I mean.
I wasn’t trying to say you were wrong…I legitimately don’t know what you’re trying to say.
Dumbest answer to a simple question, congrats! 🥳
Yes, race harder please.
