Bethany Mandel, the controversial right-wing pundit, home-schooling advocate, and prolific social media poster, is running for county school board — as a Democrat.

Though the school board race in deep-blue Montgomery County, Maryland, is technically nonpartisan, Mandel’s campaign published a graphic on Tuesday listing her as a Democrat. The move quickly raised eyebrows online, and prompted a community note on X (formerly Twitter) stating, “Bethany Mandel has identified as a Republican numerous times on her personal Twitter account.”

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    “If not me, then who?” An opposing candidate, that’s who, even if that opposing candidate is my cat, you flaming sack of kookery.

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    Maybe this will finally be a wakeup call for people who go around saying “vote blue no matter who”

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      I can’t count the number of times a Democratic candidate has tried this shit in a deep red district. As soon as I hear about it happening, then… y’know… one time.

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    Run as a Dem and win: LLUL DEMZ ZO ZTUPID

    Run as a Dem and lose: WAAAAHHHH CENZURSHIP CANZEL CULTURE

    Calling it.

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      Homey this is America in the 21st century. Hamburgers have political parties.

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          I didn’t mean to be curt either. My reply could easily be seen as dickish, so my apologies. But yes in the USA school board elections are ‘non-partisan’, but any keen observer can glean the partisan leaning of a candidate. It looks as if in this case one must be even keener than usual.

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            As a gently raised Canadian I too was very confused.

            But then the whole “registered party member”, primary voting thing doesn’t really exist here either. Like parties have internal democratically held meetings to figure out their best candidates… But I could technically go to and participate in every party meeting if I wanted to figure out their schedule. People just can’t run for office for multiple parties in an election.

            Personally I find it a little fucked up that you register your intentions and essentially choose your political circular mail during the initial voting process in the first place. It would not be out of character from this outsider’s perspective if school boards in the US were a partisan affair because there’s already more infrastructure to create a distinct two party supremacy down there then we of the north are used to.

            Just explaining our electoral system to my American friends usually has them very jealous at the general lack of extra steps. Complaining that we still have very much have proportional representation issues to address on the Canadian side usually falls on deaf ears.

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      As somebody whose dad was involved in getting 2 schools built while I was in school and was also president of the schoolboard for a time before that, I can confidently say that anybody who runs for a schoolboard position is doing so because they have an agenda.

      Oftentimes, that agenda is “I want our schools to be better for our kids,” but not always. Sometimes, people run because they have differing opinions on what making schools better means, but sometimes (and rather often right now, it seems) you get somebody whose only goal is to burn it to the ground. Those are the kinds of people who care about political parties in schoolboards - because they’re so obsessed with the us vs. them of their politics that it shapes the rest of their lives.

      Local politics can be a cutthroat and dirty game. I’ll always remember my dad telling me about how he was walking out of a town meeting one time when he saw an old lady point to him and loudly say to her friends, “That’s him! That’s the enemy!”

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    losers like this prove that young people are conservative awful too. It’s why I think the notion that we can fix all of our problems once the boomers die is at best a misguided idea.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Bethany Mandel, the controversial right-wing pundit, home-schooling advocate, and prolific social media poster, is running for county school board — as a Democrat.

    Though the school board race in deep-blue Montgomery County, Maryland, is technically nonpartisan, Mandel’s campaign published a graphic on Tuesday listing her as a Democrat.

    The most infamous was a column, published in the wake of the violent white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, titled “We Need to Start Befriending Neo Nazis.” (Mandel is Jewish.)

    Mandel’s campaign is part of a broader push by conservative culture warriors to take over school boards and decide what children can be taught.

    Oklahoma’s Republican superintendent of public schools recently appointed the woman who runs Libs of TikTok, the anti-LGBTQ meme account, to a state library advisory committee.

    In a column defending her refusal to use trans people’s chosen names and pronouns, she wrote: “Playing along with delusions isn’t a kindness to those suffering from other psychological conditions.”


    The original article contains 1,226 words, the summary contains 156 words. Saved 87%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    I’ve registered as republican a long time ago to vote in their primaries so just in case the republican nomination won the general election, it was at least someone I could somewhat tolerate until the next election. People do do this.

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      Did you run for political office as a Republican at any point?

      Shes lying about her party affliction in an attempt to win an election. These are wildly different things.

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      There’s a difference between changing registration to vote in a primary and changing party label to run for an actual seat.

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      Homeschooling is child abuse, in the majority of cases. Kids need to interact with other kids, and be taught by people who are trained to do it effectively with curriculum that isn’t based on the invisible man in the sky’s alleged preferences.

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        haha no it isn’t, don’t be absurd about topics for which you only scratch the surface in knowing anything about. Please further don’t pretend you’re a child psychologist who has the end-all interpretation of understanding.

        You refer to homeschooling in stereotypes as though every homeschooled household is the Turpin family. Your frame of reference is squarely based on on the worst offenders that hit the news headlines. Yet throughout university you probably didn’t realize there were many of us in your classes who socialized just fine and aced classes in a variety of difficult majors.

        You stereotype homeschooling from these outliers; such pointing to worst offenders is like if I were to point out the prevalence of school shooters and teen suicides public schooling produces and the associated risks and blanketing that as a reason to not go to public-school. It’s almost like there’s a bit more nuance than you lend credence. I’ll even be willing to submit cons that should be addressed and considered before anyone else considers for themselves.

        So if you’re really interested in extending this beyond your understanding, then please, let’s engage in this wholeheartedly and I can provide with both reason and evidence precisely why you’re incorrect. You miss a wide variety of benefits from homeschooling that I’d be happy to walk you through if you are genuinely interested in going beyond mere stereotypes.

        For starters, please separate religious fundamentalism from the act of schooling; these are two separate things and secular homeschoolers like us who believe in science and quality education exist.

        Signed, a homeschooled person now in his 30s who excelled in a STEM field and is now married with 2 kids to a publicly-schooled wife who agrees with the merits of homeschooling.

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          Lmfao I love that your argument for home schooling includes talking down on someone’s intelligence for not being qualified to speak on child psychology. Yet you’re advocating that people that aren’t qualified should be allowed to teach their kids and don’t yourself have a degree relating to the field

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            My guy, the dude literally called it child abuse without any evidence or position of expertise whatsoever. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you can point to me where homeschooling is classified as child abuse under any major regulatory body or psychological foundation, I’ll eat my words.

            There is literal evidence that homeschooling yields effective outcomes, so while your response is cute, it isn’t really grounded in anything substantive. One would know this if they actually knew anything about homeschooling.

            Fuck it. I’ll just call public schooling child abuse. After all, I’d bet money that even after factoring proportionality more suicides and homicides occur as a direct result of public schooling.

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          Are you basing this rant on your personal (anecdotal) experience of it working out for you, or actual statistics?

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            What statistics are you looking for? I do have statistics supporting the fact that homeschoolers as a general population outperform the average public schooler, academically (which is certainly one major argument of the previous user’s concerns when referring to quality teachers).

            And of course it goes both ways. I’m curious if those critical of homeschooling are using any sort of statistics to support their arguments as opposed to equivalent anecdotes and skewed perceptions based on news headlines.

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              Put’em up. Got statistics? Show statistics. I don’t care one whit about this argument (I homeschool my kid because I don’t want him to get shot), but if you say your allegation is supported by evidence, provide the evidence. Which ones?: Yes. Let’s see’em.

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                Isn’t it amusing that nobody down-voted the user who replied to me attacking homeschooling and giving zero credible evidence or statistics, themselves?

                I wonder, are you going to ask them for statistics?

                And sure; merely a google search away:

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                  Well your second link can’t be trusted because it’s from a biased source. Literally paid research by the home education group.

                  The first one is interesting in that it seems to be a hirable think tank. But, does at least seem to be pulling data from sources.

                  Now you did in fact supply sources more than the people you are arguing against but you started with emotional responses and then angrily stated that you provided resources elsewhere which isn’t a great look and will build bias against you. So now you are facing a losing argument to pivot to “facts” late and with bias just makes it really hard to take your side seriously at this point.

                  Take a step back and let it go or start over. And know starting over is also gonna be uphill with the hole that’s been dug. Sorry man. Humans are emotional at their core. All of us.

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                  72% of the homeschooled student learned for 5 hours each week

                  (If this is true that’s very alarming) But a few lines later it reads:

                  The number of students who learned for between 25 to 40 hours a week was 50%.

                  There are plenty of other examples of contradicting statistics and strange grammar on this page, it makes me feel like it was written by someone homeschooled…

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            Sounds like a low-punch cop-out to me, buddy. Come back when you have something substantive to say.

            People have a very shallow understanding of a subject that I know much more about because I’ve lived it. Sorry if I’m passionate because these shallow negative stereotypes impact me and many others.

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          Why are you writing like you’re attempting to sound smart? Anyway, for someone who “excelled” in college, you provide surprisingly little substance in your argument. So I’ll gently call you out: Convince us you’re not just basing your entire argument off of personal experience.

          Now I’m not saying I’m on either side. I’ve heard reports from both ends of that spectrum. So, lennybird, which side should we accept more strongly?

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            Tell me, what exactly did I write that makes me, “sound smart”? Please, be detailed. Is that your own insecurity talking? I’ve written many comments like this on other subjects, but isn’t it funny how it’s this specific subject-matter that makes people so often attack my character. Isn’t that more of a reflection on you? Let’s just start here before proceeding further.

            For calling me out on little substance, it’s curious that both (1) You haven’t given any support to the opposite conclusion whatsoever, and (2) have only lightly cherry-picked at what you perceive as being low-hanging fruit without really countering anything, or even offering genuine questions of inquiry.

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              You’re deflecting, just like you have in other replies I’ve seen. Substance. You have the proof, right? It’s important, so share with the class.

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                How am I deflecting? Is this projection? You’re deflecting, actually. Again, do tell me where I attempt to “sound smart.”

                Just gave it to the other user. Feel free to read.

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                  Damn. You’re kind of an asshole, aren’t you? Mother must be proud, huh buddy?

                  Did you learn bullying and ganging up on people in school, too?

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            The top level comment literally provides zero substance. Why didn’t you call it out?

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              Substance wasn’t really my focus. We all have the capacity to look things up ourselves. How the other user said it, the snarkiness and better-than-thou feel, it felt like a bit much. I’m all for opinions, they get conversations going and usually someone learns something or at least has a good time. You’re right though, I should have asked for the same from the original comment and not gotten stuck on the one.

              Have an upvote, I deserve the call out here.

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                My god, man.

                you provide surprisingly little substance in your argument.

                Substance wasn’t really my focus

                The double-standard is palpable. So I’m “snarky,” but you’re a liar.

                I matched snarkiness with snarkiness; the previous user literally called what I went through and what I do for my kids “child abuse” and you don’t fucking object to that? I’m not supposed to get passionate about that? Should I have written more typos, kissed their ass more? What would’ve received your blessing, exactly?

                Give me a fucking break and grow up.

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          I’m just looking at nces statistics, specifically the percentage of parents that homeschool for moral or religious reasons, and drawing conclusions that may very well be bullshit. Glad it worked out for you, but I can’t help but feel sorry for kids I’ve known who would have benefited from a secular education. It’s pretty embarrassing to explain evolution to a twentysomething.

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            I confess I was a bit triggered by calling it child abuse in blanket terms, so I thank you for this comment. It’s not suitable for everyone and yes, absolutely religious fundamentalism is a major issue. It just sucks for secular parents like us to be under that umbrella generalization. I suspect if one could partition data between secular and religious homeschooled groups there would be a pretty stark contrast in performance and objective life satisfaction.

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          Bro, put the thesaurus down. I have a Master’s Degree in English and a Master of Fine Arts Degree in creative writing and even I can’t take the excessive vocabulary shoehorned into your reply. Not to mention your sentence structure, punctuation, and feigned formalities. (Hence the “trying to sound smart” comment.)

          And before you respond so aggressively like you have with other comments, I’m not doubting your education and how you believe homeschooling has its advantages. However, you’ve refused to provide evidence backing up your claims beyond anecdotes. I don’t care about the child abuse comment, because your insistence you don’t have to supply a source because they didn’t doesn’t help you make your case.

          Also, chill the fuck out, dude. You’re all worked up over an internet conversation.

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            Buddy, if any of these are big words to you, then perhaps that public school education isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. Otherwise, do tell if I’m misusing any words, alright? Let’s go one-by-one and discuss. But isn’t it absolutely remarkable that you have to commit an entire paragraph to make an Ad Hominem attack against me? To nitpick by fucking diction of all things…? With that Masters degree I guess I’d at least expect witty brevity.

            Can’t win with you folks… If I let loose my Appalachian roots you’d call me simpleminded and my vocabulary weak and a result of my homeschooled education; if on the other hand if I respond with a tight comment that predicts arguments, you get defensive that I’m holier-than-thou and condescending. The bottom-line is you’re looking for shit, obviously.

            Please read the previous user’s comment. They literally called what I went through and what I do for my kids, “child abuse.” Fucking absurd. As you can imagine this isn’t my first rodeo and I kind of figured what I was getting into making such a statement.

            That you tell me to calm down as you decide to comment in a filled thread from hours ago just speaks to your own lack of introspection (is that a “thesaurus” word for you, too?)

            Honestly, I’m just looking for good debate. I think most people here are far more worked up than I am. I just know how to fight fire with fire and some of you seem to take issue with that.

            By the way, evidence was provided below. At this point, nobody gave evidence – so why am I held to a higher standard than the dude who called it child abuse? lol.

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              Look, dude. I’m going to admit I was wrong in being unable to find your two sources. Of course, without seeing that, the verisimilitude of your comment was questionable. Otherwise, I read every comment that responded to you and your subsequent responses.

              To your point, though, the words aren’t too big for me, and you’re clearly demonstrating how condescending you can be by saying things like that. Don’t catch me with the hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia reading comprehension nonsense. I can pull out verbose bullshit too.

              And if you were looking for a good faith debate, you wouldn’t be so fucking aggressive in literally all of your responses. Point blank. There have been no attempts, as far as I can tell, to redirect the conversation in a positive direction in any way from anyone—and I’ll admit I’m a part of that problem. However, due to your abrasiveness, you’re not making your argument any stronger.

              I’m not against homeschooling, by the way. The person that called it child abuse also sucks, in case you think I’m being impartial.

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                I’ve yet to hear exactly what was so controversial about my initial response to a comment that literally generalized child abuse across all of homeschooling… Again, where is your outrage over that? Where are you interrogating them for sources? I matched aggression at every point in these threads. Where you see those sources linked, I held a reasonable conversation with far less aggression – did I not? You see it goes both ways.

                Truly. I genuinely wish you could just reach your hand out and other users would reach a hand back out and we’d sing Kumbaya. In my experience that just doesn’t work and you just get rolled over. I had to be assertive to dispel any notion of the original argument – for which has not in conceivable way been addressed. In other words, this massive pivot to attack my character or how I said something is a clear deflection to the actual substance of the topic at hand.

                I’ll treat anyone with the utmost respect if they bestow the same to me. Otherwise, I’m dishing it right back at you. So to be clear, the insults directed at me have fundamentally dwarfed anything I’ve said beforehand.

                Should be noted that the original user who made that comment finally responded and we generally saw eye-to-eye.

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                  My problem has been your approach. Straight up.

                  I never said you were wrong about homeschooling. I said you didn’t provide evidence outside of anecdotes. I was wrong about that. And I said I don’t have a problem with homeschooling. In fact, I acknowledged that I’m sure your experience was good, but was trying to imply that’s not the case for everyone, just as you were saying.

                  I said your vocabulary was indicative of a place of superiority and then the responses were rather condescending. I have a feeling that has to do with you being so defensive about your experience with homeschooling. And it seems to me you might have wanted to emphasize that you’re not a stupid, brainwashed religious product of the homeschooling system. In turn, your initial response was rather excessive in what seemed like an attempt to prove your point. I’m not a psychologist and I don’t know you, but that’s how it is from my perspective. But, I admitted that I’m also not having a productive conversation on the topic at hand.

                  However, I wasn’t trying to talk about the substance of your argument. I was pointing out that it’s flawed due to the aforementioned responses. And nothing was controversial, just needed evidence to back it up.

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              Ignore them. Some kids just do better homeschooled and it’s the lesser of evils, either you sacrifice the benefit they get from socializing or you sacrifice how they do in school because they can’t handle being around people like that.

              I’m sure I’ll get downvoted here too but fuck em. Way too many people are so full of themselves they think they know more about a situation than those who have or are living it.

              To be fair though, the majority of homeschooled kids are likely being kept home and forced to learn some religious bullshit and the only socializing they get is with other religious nutjobs doing the same to their kids. Not saying that was your situation, just a statement of fact.

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                The most sensible comment yet, thank you.

                I’ve mentioned in another comment or two the same thing: Obviously religious fundamentalism is a major problem. But that’s its own problem, not homeschooling.

                My upbringing was a little unique in that regard. I was raised in a Christian household but we weren’t evangelical, really. By the time I reached my teens my entire family kind of went through a paradigm shift for various reasons away from religion and conservatism and went full-blown progressive-left. Some of that is thanks to the internet; some of that is thanks to my parents’ reflection of the US invasion of Iraq and its parallels to the Vietnam War and their hippie days.

                Either way I definitely don’t see homeschooling as fitting the circumstances of every family, and it certainly has its cons that need addressed as well. For my kids (and with my wife’s AP/Honors public school perspective) we think we can do better for our kids.

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    "We Need to Start Befriending Neo Nazis.” (Mandel is Jewish.)

    “Not nuking these fucking animals is the only restraint I expect and that’s only because the cloud would hurt Israelis,” she’s written about Palestinians.

    Oh hey, looks like you already started making those friends. What a worthless cunt.