Happened to me a few days ago, and I just can’t believe how bad this redesign is!!
It’s hard to comprehend what goes into the heads of that dev team, but they basically ruined everything nice about the platform. The API changes were pretty much a fatal shot already, but this new redesign seems to be what tipped the scales for me, and hopefully many more.
It’s a great time to switch to Lemmy, and I think I’m going to make the effort to stick around and abandon the habit of opening reddit multiple times per day.
Do you think forcing this re-design will bring more people here? I’m hoping for that. Reddit betrayed us and I can’t find it me to keep forgiving them for every horrible, anti-user decision.
I noticed in some moderator subreddit, that it is planned to kill new.reddit.com as well. Old will likely stay for longer, but new is what I got used to, and if they take it down I won’t bother getting used to the newer, garbage UX.
The redesign was garbage ux from the start and they ignored absolutely all feedback for years. It was fundamentally flawed from the very beginning and they buried their heads in the sand because they knew most people would still use it.
Most people seemed to use the official app anyway, which is even worse, so I don’t see many people changing over this. I was one of the people who said when old Reddit was gone so was I, I just didn’t expect them to do something worse before that time came.
Won’t change much. Look at OP, complaining about the betrayal and going back several times a day. Old habits are hard to break.
It’s not habit, it’s that there are many things on Reddit that are not on Lemmy in any meaningful sense yet. I use reddit for those communities that don’t exist here and I don’t feel like quitting, but Lemmy gets my full attention for everything else.
Using both platforms at once is more about necessity and patience. Lemmy will grow, I’m certain of that, but I’m not going to pretend it’s anywhere near active enough yet to fully replace every aspect of reddit. It will, but it isn’t there yet.
Same. I tried to quit (and even deleted my account) but realized that the Lemmy equivalent of my home city community isn’t yet on here (and there’s also a buy nothing subreddit that’s been helpful for getting baby stuff). I use RedReader and I’m only subscribed to three local subreddits.
When RiF broke I never went back, i need lemmy to prosper or I will be out of doomscrolling app
Honestly I kind of like that lemmy has less content at the moment. When I’ve seen everything I’m interested in I close it and do something else, rather than doing nothing but scroll.
Though I do miss the long format text stuff a bit.
What app do you use to browse on mobile? I’m using Memmy but had trouble posting.
Their motto seems to consistently be: “Drive out the old users who remember what we used to be. Rein in the new users who embrace the enshitification and change from content aggregation to social media”
Call me when you all want to fix the very clearly worse problems Lemmy has.
See, the fun part is there is a place to track those issues and you are welcome to lend a hand fixing them instead of just complaining.
Or we can continue speaking out instead of allowing oversensitive idiots like you to get defensive at the mere mention that Lemmy is less than perfect.
This is your platform, not mine, after all.
Oh, I’m sorry, I thought you were looking for a solution. I see now you just wanted to complain. Carry on.
The solution is for you to fix it. It’s your platform and you all are the authority and can just do what you want, and we just have to put up with it. These are your words out of your mouth whenever anyone calls you out on your own shit immature behavior, yet when it comes time for you to bear the responsibility of that, like now, all of a sudden it’s all on everyone else.
You are a pathetic, immature baby who wants all of the power over other people, but none of the work, not even to maintain your own platform, and that is why why Lemmy is a buggy, poorly moderated shithole.
And I’m gonna keep telling you this until you change.
Do what you tell us to do: get over it if you don’t like it.
0 reading comprehension skill
Zero meaningful and substantive argument
As an ex-redditor, my only reaction is
So now there’s a NewNew Reddit? That IPO is getting ever closer, guess they’ll be thrashing around all the harder in the lead up to that to try to show some kind of path to profitability.
Yeh try opening reddit in incognito w/o logging in. It’s basically a mobile design, but now for desktop as well. They haven’t even implemented Compact mode. It’s unreal. Half of it is wasted space, and it looks so green. Baby vomit vibes.
Huh. Kinda looks like the front page of twitter. I hate it. I mean, I don’t go to reddit anymore unless I’m forced to Google something and even then I gotta turn off my VPN first, but still. Yuck.
Wait even if you go to old.reddit.com?
Edit: old still seems to be fine
Old is fine, and the 2nd redesign is currently at new.reddit.com (but it’s possible it could be gone at some point).
“How do we get rid of old reddit?”
“Make a new new reddit, and the make new reddit old reddit.”
“Promote this man.”
Can’t even view it because I’m using a VPN.
Which should tell you enough, tbh.
You can see it by going to sh.reddit.com. A lot of people are getting forced to this if they try to use new.reddit.
old.reddit supposedly remains unaffected, so if you use that domain specifically you should be fine. Assuming the Admins aren’t lying.
Soon old.old.reddit
Wow what a horrible day to have eyes
I don’t know if I’m the only one who feels this way, but the new design makes it look more like a social media site than a forum.
Pretty sure that’s the point
I’m sure we’ll start seeing stories/reels/shorts making a comeback as well, they just want to make it a copy of other social platforms indeed. Their brainrot knows only one thing - copy trends that make money. They had no clue what to do with reddit, and it’s apparent in every decision they’ve made. RIP Aaron Swartz. He had such a different vision. Reddit team needs to be disbanded. It looks like that’s the plan anyhow. Sell reddit and fuck everything off to whoever comes next.
Many won’t leave no matter what happens.
Some have left already.
Everyone else is somewhere in-between.
Based on the stats of a sub I have access to, old Reddit has been on a slow decline for a long time and just isn’t that significant of a % of people.
So no, I seriously doubt this will have an impact.
Counterpoint: the moderation teams for the bulk of the most popular subs have flat out said that they cannot do their jobs without old.reddit, and the Admins (for what its worth) seem to have acknowledged that. I think old.reddit may get perpetually frozen with no new features added, but removing it outright seems unlikely.
Of course, them just closing their API entirely seemed unlikely too, so…
Counter-counter point: Reddit got rid of a lot of the mods that would be problematic to deal with for big changes and it didn’t really impact the site.
I say this as a mod who bounced
It impacted the quality of the site. However they don’t care about quality only about money or the appearance of making money.
They want is the investors to look at the site, see all the shitty ads, the number of claimed users and believe it’s worth pouring money into the IPO.
As much as I don’t want to, I have to give a very very hard disagree on the quality decline. Sure, the couple of months after the sub shutdowns it was bad but stuff seemed to more or less bounce back.
I don’t count “All”, or any of the major ones like News, Politics, etc. I’m talking local, hobbies, and a few brands-of-device subs. Questions get asked, they get answered. There’s still a lot of timely breaking-news discussion.
But hey, if they want to contribute free work to pump up the value of a site where they won’t get a dime, they can go crazy. That’s why we’re over here and they are welcome to join us anytime.
I would not care, if the new UI wasn’t that buggy and laggy.
Lemmy users talking to Reddit users.
The hurdle is content. Lemmy has an overflow of politics and mindless memes, but it needs to have more content beyond that to attract people in.
Everyone who wants Lemmy to succeed should give redditors a reason to stay by posting in some of the smaller and more niche communities.
How about not attacking people who express a liking for Windows?
I’m more of a doors person, myself.
Reddit has zero content. Lemmy has zero content. Only people.
The Gaming Comunitys on lemmy are also alright.
Yeah! Like rimworld.gallery
It’s worse than that. The politics is a far left echo chamber which appeals to a small number of chronically online but repels everyone else.
Lemmy is not much farther left than reddit is.
Also the younger generations who spend more time on these sites lean left to begin with. They aren’t going to be repelled by people shitting on Biden.
I am a leftist who participated on Reddit for more than a decade without any issues, and I catch bans on Lemmy for not being “left” enough. The politics on Lemmy are so far outside anything resembling mainstream, you get bans for daring to quote Jacobin or the fucking internationale.
From where I am standing, as someone who has actually studied political science, Lemmy looks a lot more like right wing trolls pretending to be leftists
Monthly active users are 35% lower than July last year when Reddit turned off the external API. Just 42,188 now. Since then there are 45% fewer servers online. Average comments per month are up, which means fewer and fewer people are posting more and more. This is the definition of an online circlejerk. I’m glad you like it this way but normal people do not, and these stats will only get worse in time.
MAUs are counted by commenters and posters. The stats could just as well show that there are fewer people engaging for the sake of engagement, which was a huge problem last summer.
I don’t like Trump at all and not a fan of Biden but there are lots of vicious comments to the point where I have felt tempted to just skip the comments on political posts.
Yet without an audience, it’s just people posting into the void.
I think we need to accept that we aren’t going to become Reddit pt. 2 anytime soon. Smaller steps might be a good way to go - e.g. if a small sub dedicated to a single game is too small, then post in a medium level one like its genre.
But also, the main reason I stopped recommending the Fediverse to people - well aside from the fact that nobody was listening:-P - wasn’t just lack of content, and instead mainly bc there are so very many technical glitches. I eventually left Kbin entirely bc it never seemed to progress anywhere, but everywhere I’ve gone on Lemmy, while it has been better, is still far from perfect. For instance, I have to re-login every single time I come here - even on the same day, and sometimes also just randomly while browsing, both mobile browser and also desktop.
We who are here are okay that it is alpha version software, but the kind of people on Reddit who have remained are not. Consent matters: we haven’t enticed them here, and we need to be okay with that, or else do a LOT better job trying - which will take time and effort, which is underway - and either way it would help to accept the situation as it is not just how we might dream that it could be otherwise.
Chicken and the egg. Nobody is posting or commenting because nobody is posting or commenting.
I’ve decided to ignore waiting for others to post and just post. Some communities I’ve done this in are still voids. Others have actually come to life somewhat. Still slow, but at least other people are now consistently engaging.
That’s what I was suggesting yeah:-). That’s awesome that you are following through, and hey if it is working then that’s the proof!:-P
I would presume that it is attracting existing Lemmies to those new communities (well, new-to-them, or at least far healthier than the used to be), though my point about technical issues applies more to people who remained on Reddit. Especially those who already tried Lemmy but didn’t like it and thus left, which could be for both reasons - lack of content and technical capabilities.
The one thing I have noticed is the proliferation of overly niche communities rather than congregating in larger hubs and then organizing into smaller communities as the userbase scales.
I do believe that was an early mistake made throughout the platform.
Since it is functionally unreversible, my personal solution has been to try and make networks of these communities by encouraging sidebars to reference each other, share mods, and partake in cross posting.
They can also just merge like the cooking communities did some weeks ago
The redesign would be bad if considerably improved. Because as it is now, it’s simply awful.
Things that they did not get:
- People might not like a crammed interface, but they certainly don’t like to unnecessarily roll stuff.
- Desktops typically have a horizontal screen. Vertical space is at premium, but horizontal space is cheap. That leads to “stripes” of content, not to square blocks.
- “Muh consisrency! Mobile n desktop inrurrfaces must look teh same!” leads to either a shitty mobile interface, a shitty desktop interface, or both. Never neither.
- If you can guess that a user is using a desktop interface (YES YOU CAN, you spam the shit out of the users if they dare to use the mobile interface), then you can also guess that desktop users won’t “download your appz XD”.
- Everything else.
I kind of like it more than the current new redesign. It seems to make better use of horizontal space, it doesn’t leave black bars. However, I haven’t tried it on 16:9 screen, but a 20:9.
What I don’t like is lack of Markdown editor. That new(2) editor is even wose than FancyPants editor of new(1). There’s just three options: GIF (works), Image (worked after spamming it like 100 times) and “T” which is probably for text editing (doesn’t work at all).Anyway, am I the only or does it feel like X?
Disclaimer: I haven’t tried using it, I just checked it for 3 minutes now.
I like it too. I wish I could compare it to current reddit, but I can only access it through old interface. And the current reddit is is too addicting to me to justify working around it.
I kinda hate that I like the sh version cause it will tempt me to sink time there.
I like the redesign
old reddit the only way to use reddit for me. When it’s gone I will have to waste my time exclusively here.
I have a community for a project on Reddit which is the only reason I use it anymore, I’ve tried using new Reddit so many times but it’s so painful that I really think I’m just let the community die if they force me off old
There is one community over there which I miss here, but only so long there is old reddit.
I actually like the new new Reddit more than the new Reddit that preceded it. Maybe an unpopular opinion. Although I haven’t had time to use it that much yet.
