• Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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    Say what you will. I find it a bit insane that a country can just own an island like that which is nowhere even near their mainland. If you just look at the map it’s quite obvious to who that land belongs to.

    Something like Hawai is a more difficult case since it’s in the middle of ocean. Maybe it should just be a sovereign nation.

    EDIT: Though since most people living there are native born Falkland islanders that speak English and voted to stay as a part of the UK then it’s perhaps something we should leave be as it is. Kind of similar case as with Israel to be honest.

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      find it a bit insane that a country can just own an island like that which is nowhere even near their mainland. If you just look at the map it’s quite obvious to who that land belongs to.

      The UN agrees with you, and asked Great Britain to give the islands back to Argentina.

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        1 year ago

        Not quite.

        The Special Committee on Decolonization concluded its 2021 substantive session today, approving 18 draft resolutions, including one requesting that the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom resume negotiations as soon as possible to reach a peaceful resolution of their sovereignty dispute over the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)*.

        Source

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            1 year ago

            The link you shared shows UN resolution 502 which states:

            • immediate cessation of hostilities
            • withdrawal of argentine forces
            • start diplomatic means to settle the matter.

            Nowhere does it mention telling British to return the island to Argentina.

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              The actual verbage of the third bullet item you listed is as follows …

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_502

              1. Calls on the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to seek a diplomatic solution to their differences and to respect fully the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

              I’m assuming thats meant to say negatiate the return of the islands, because there sure as shit nothing else that would be discussed to resolve the diplomatic solution, unless they went for some funky kind of co-op/timeshare solution. They can’t state the return blatently because the UK would not agree to that in an initial resolution.

              https://press.un.org/en/2021/gacol3347.doc.htm

              In the ensuing debate, delegates, many from the Latin American and Caribbean region, supported Argentina’s claim of sovereignty and urged Buenos Aires and London to begin negotiations as soon as possible on the basis of the relevant United Nations resolutions. Several cautioned against unilateral actions, expressing concern about the United Kingdom’s military presence in the Falklands (Malvinas), and by extension, the South Atlantic.

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                1 year ago

                The actual verbiage never said that United Kingdom had to return the island to Argentina.

                The purposes and principles of UN which is described in chapter 1, says the member nations will not use force to threaten territorial integrity or political independence of any state.

                It also states that nations should respect principles of equal rights and self determination.

                Argentina is guilty of both of using force to threaten political independence of island and disrespect of self determination of the islanders

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                  The actual verbiage never said that United Kingdom had to return the island to Argentina.

                  It wouldn’t, or else it would never get passef by vote because the UK would vote against it. You need to understand how diplomats state things publicly, especially when they have to vote on them.

                  When the terminology of ‘negotiation’ is used, that’s what is meant, because there’s no other issue to negotiate about, than the return of the islands.