"Well, if I were him I’d want to debate me too. He’s got nothing else to do.”
Life does not stop and start at your convenience, you miserable piece of sh*t.
Biden shows up to the debate wearing his aviator glasses and leaves them on the whole time.
He’s is so transparently desperate to put Haley in the rear-view mirror.
And he’s already told us what he’s going to do to get out of debating with Biden: He’s going to insist that none of the traditional debates be held and instead they all must be Trump campaign events hosted by his sycophants rather than independently run debates. When he doesn’t get his way he’s going claim Biden didn’t want to debate him.
He will only debate if Tucker Carlson is the moderator and it’s held in Moscow
Biden should agree to that, and then when Trump lands in Moscow, Biden’s not there. He just closes the borders and put his shades on from the White House.
Top notch democracy fan-fiction.
No, fuck that! I want that asshole in prison on American soil!
Edit: unless the Biden administration freezes all his assets.
LOL I’d love to see Trump avoiding windows in Moscow.
He would be an anti-martyr. Just a stench hanging over the GOP. Not inspiring, just a criminal scared of justice getting golden showers from cheap Russian hookers.
What assets…
The debates don’t even have to be on his turf, when CNN or whoever moderates it just let’s him say and do whatever
just let’s him
saylie and do whatever“It’s great for ratings!”
And who’s going to swallow that story? The same kind of people who would vote for Trump to begin with.
There is no upside to Biden debating him. Trump will just spout nonsense to get sound bites
Biden declining is a win for Trumps fans though
He wants to do it to appear as the clear Rep nominee. He doesn’t get to step over Haley if Biden’s not down.
Im not disagreeing, but trumpers will say Biden is scared and be emboldened.
It sounds more like Trump is afraid to engage with Nikki Haley
Trumpers are a religion at this point. If you base your strategy on them you’ll lose.
Fuck them… Fuck what they think and fuck what they say … let them be emboldened. Just remember to show up and vote 😉
But will that really change anything?
Not at all, unless Biden specifically says WHY he wont decline.
Of course, if Biden gives the right reason then obviously all the Trump fans will vote for him instead. /s
It may not convert trumpers to biden, but it might also grow more trumpers
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Mark Twain
What did Mr. Twain mean by “experience” though?
Bit confused 🤔; would anyone be kind enough to explain please?
The idiot will have more experience at being an idiot and will throw nonsense and fallacies at you while you try to deflect and defend with logic and reason
Ok. That makes sense now. TYVM.
NO IT DOESN’T! IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE BECAUSE OF WHAT THE JEWS AND PIZZA PARLORS ARE DOING. FIGHT ME NOW!!!
“Get away from Me, You dirty/stinky MAGA/Q-anon member!!!” hiss
Hey pigeon, you think you won chess?
I’m not following
What part did you miss?
Biden is like Trump’s kryptonite. Trump always tries to get in the other guys head.
Can’t get in Biden’s head…Bidens not in there, good luck dude
- Shane Gillis
That guy has the BEST impersonation I’ve ever seen, it’s repulsive! Not just the voice, but the hands, the sucking air through the teeth, the head tilts and mouth movements, all spot-on. You know how you have to wonder about the mental state of horror game/movie artists looking at reference material all day? Same feeling about Shane Gillis.
Lmfao
will just spout nonsense
You spelled lies wrong
Even his lies don’t make sense at this point. They are just incoherent rambling that is indistinguishable from his “normal” incoherent rambling.
There is a distinction between nonsense and lies though, and it’s not intent. Trump nonsense is closer to just insanity and dementia than lies. For telling lies, first you have to make sense.
Why is Trump so afraid of debating Nikki Haley first?
What a pussy he is.
Don’t forget. Back in 2016, before the Conventions, Trump challenged Bernie Sanders to a debate. Bernie jumped on the idea, and Trump ran away from his own challenge.
He knew Bernie would have DESTROYED him in a debate
The worst thing for Republican voter turnout is hearing a Bernie Sanders speech. The dude shows up in a coal miner town hall and convinces them all to vote blue.
It’s a shame it didn’t happen…maybe, just maybe, if Bernie had trounced Trump in a debate, there wouldn’t have been that whole Bernie is unelectable/would lose to Trump idea floating so strongly, and it might’ve given him a better chance in the primary either time.
At this point I see debates as pointless.
There may have been a time in this country where candidate A would have this plan for healthcare, candidate B would have that plan for healthcare, candidate A calls for more trade with Europe, candidate B favors trade with Asia etc. and issues are discussed.
These days, there’s one political party and one doomsday cult. I don’t think it’s worth the bandwidth to broadcast.
It wouldn’t have mattered. The “unelectable” narrative was coming from the DNC leadership. Bernie was polling just fine until everyone started saying he couldn’t win.
I remember all the networks showing the number of delegates he and Hillary had, and they showed all the super delegates going to Hillary. Not only had they never shown votes like that before, but the super delegates hadn’t even voted at that point. It was all just based off the assumption that they would all vote for Hillary. Thumb on the scale.
Hillary had bought their support from the beginning. She learned from 2008 that she couldn’t compete in an open field, so she wrangled all challengers before the primaries started. Sanders was the only one who couldn’t be bought.
Thumb on the scale.
That’s the whole point of super delegates. The consequence in 2016 being that Hillary only needed about 30% in a given primary to “win” that state.
This is about legitimatizing his run for president. He would never actually show up.
I’ll seriously consider debating you once - no, I’m sorry: IF - you win the Republican Primary.
Can you imagine how fucking infuriating that would be to Trump?
I agree it would completely melt him down
Congratulations America, we have 2 old, white men running for President…AGAIN…
Are you… new here? George Washington was elected at age 57. It took until 1850 for there to be a president who was born in the 1800s. It took until 1961 for a president to be born in the 1900s.
Donald Trump is older than both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. Before them we literally had presidents born in the 1920s. Reagan was born before WW1!
Obama was the outlier. Fucking vote in every election if you don’t like it.
Gen Z president coming sometime between 2050 and 2060, got it.
President of a burned world
Can we have more than one GenX president, or is one the limit?
Have to have one first to have more than one
I kinda count Obama in spirit, although he’s a bit old. He may be the best we get.
Oh, I’m voting…I’m just reminding people that both sides are guilty of the same shit. The Left complains and criticizes lack of diversity within the political world, but are doing the exact same thing…nominating, supporting, and voting for some old, wealthy, white dude…
Fuck.right.off.with.that.shit.
Yeah man, they’re totally identical. No difference between them at all. Nope.
Keep telling yourself there is my friend…
Remind me, which one planned and executed a fascist coup?
Oh brother…here we go…
I’m torn. On one hand, debates should take place to show knowledge/professionalism/action plans, etc. Also, it showcases (yet again) what a fucking idiot he is. On the other hand, he hasn’t done a debate so far for this presidential race, so why start now? It’s been nice hearing about him slightly less.
Also…how the fuck are debates not somehow mandatory to end up in the presidential race?
Neither has officially won their party’s respective nominations. There is plenty of time, and there will be debates.
The primaries are what I was referring to. I understand there’s time for actual candidate debates.
Oh then yeah, I agree with you, Trump and Haley should debate. I’m not sure anything is gained having Biden debate any challengers.
At this point, the only ones debating/wanting to debate are the losers.
debates haven’t been legit for decades and since then they progressively get worse
They aren’t even debates. Just people yelling over each other for sound bytes and some TV time.
“Will you shut up, man!” Remember how their last debate played out. It’ll be worse this time around.
Agreed.
On the other hand, he hasn’t done a debate so far for this presidential race
It is way too early for R vs. D debates. Why would Biden debate him? Biden is handily beating Dean Phillips. Trump needs to defeat Haley first. It’s not Biden fault Haley is still in it.
It is too early indeed. I was referring to all of the primary debates he skipped.
It’s not really a debate when your opponent’s metrics for winning is simply to speak more loudly, more aggressively, and to refuse to shut the fuck up more intensely than anybody else in the room.
Okay, but that’s basically every debate. Hell, that’s the optimal strategy in a crowded field. Meekly sitting in the back with a pile of spreadsheets that say “I’m right” on them does nothing to galvenize public support for your policies.
Even then, Biden refusing to meet Trump on stage won’t discourage Trump from doing his whistle stop Beer Hall tour. At some point, I think liberals lose sight of how important big crowds of people cheering at your approach is in a popularity contest. When Biden shows up at an event, he’s greeted by a few dozen angry protesters, calling him Genocide Joe and waving big blown up pictures of dead Palestinian children. When Trump shows up at an event, he’s greeted by a few dozen enthusiastic supporters, calling him the New Messiah and waving big blown up pictures of drowned children in the Rio Grande with “Win One More For the Gipper” scrawled across it.
Totally different energy at these events. Totally different reception by the party’s base voters.
If Biden wants to position himself as the “Guy Who Will Protect You From Trump Who Is Worse”, he’s going to have to get out in front of an audience, side by side with Trump, and remind everyone of the distinction. Otherwise, he’s just running in a vacuum as a mediocre President during an economic upswing, and hoping people give him credit for a rising stock market without blaming him for his party’s failure to deliver on any of their major platforms in the last 40 years.
Did you miss the 2020 election when Trump had more people at his rallies than now? Biden had zero rallies because of the pandemic and won easily. Rallies don’t matter.
Or my personal fav, lurking behind your opponent to try and weird them out and throw them off their game.
If it weren’t for the fact that this shit has real consequences, I’d suggest Biden should invite Haley to debate the president just for spite.
Damn I would pay money to watch a live reaction from Trump on that.
Have you ever seen a septic tank explode?
Is that a roundabout way to ask if I’ve ever been to Florida?
Joe Dirt is that you
“I GOT THE POO ON ME!”
it’s never a debate. I’ve never seen one that was a debate. Trump would ignore the questions, say edgy shit and get laughs, and basically win
Biden is right to not platform an insurrectionist
“Will you shut up, man!”
Why give any more credibility to a pahetic loser fascist? He’s doing just fine comparing himself to Elvis.
Oh good. We’re at the “debate me, bro” phase. Love to see it. Lol
I sincerely hope Biden never takes a single debate with him, because it would be an absolute clown show, and that’s exactly the kind of chaos Trump’s brand thrives upon.
Bicycle racks after school, unless youre a…pussy?
Trump lost every general election debate he has been in, including two against Biden. I don’t know why people forget he’s actually really bad at staying on message and declaring succinct points in response to specific questions, especially when he gets riled up.
Because he makes a spectacle and enough sound bites to get the press and his supporters talking.
He makes noise, they like that he makes noise, so they like him. They dont care too much about what the noise is.
That’s true, but people in his camp want a spectacle, an entertaining show, not policy plans and actual governance. Putting Trump up there with Biden gives him implicit credence that he’s worth debating, while Biden will be the punchline of his boorish antics.
It’s true that he would lose every debate point, yet he would still come out on top because of the giant figurative megaphone he would get.
Right or wrong, a president can’t skip debates. That’s a non-starter, no matter who he/she’s debating against.
Having said that, it would be an absolute shit show both ways, one struggling to talk coherently, the other ones spewing epic levels of bullshit, and most likely nothing of value coming of it at all.
But stil, having a presidential election without any debates would be the final nail in the coffin of America, as it’s supposed to be.
Right or wrong, a president can’t skip debates.
Why not? There is no law requiring participation to be on the ballot. Strategically its a bad move. Morally it’s a bad move.
Why not?
Because we Citizens need ways to evaluate the people who are running for office to decide which one you want to give her a vote to.
Name one presidential election cycle where no debates were done in modern times.
Morally it’s a bad move.
It would be immoral for someone running for office to not put themselves up for evaluation via debates. No one is owed blind loyalty.
Because we Citizens need ways to evaluate the people who are running for office to decide which one you want to give her a vote to.
You’ve had plenty of time to do so for both candidates, as both have recently held office.
Name one presidential election cycle where no debates were done in modern times.
This is moving the goal posts, and a bad way to evaluate the necessity of a given debate.
It would be immoral for someone running for office to not put themselves up for evaluation via debates. No one is owed blind loyalty.
I’m not suggesting blind loyalty. It just seems odd that your trying to say the public won’t have a chance to evaluate the options when that clearly isn’t the case. Trump held office from 2016 to 2020, Biden from 2020 to 2024.
If anybody doesn’t already know what these guys are about, then a debate won’t solve that, as they already pay too little attention.
And besides that, the immorality of platforming insurectionists far outweighs whatever immorality could arrive in the form your suggesting.
Honestly I would do it, then invite the secret third contestant Nimarata Nikki Haley, and let the two of them kick each other’s ass, while Biden just eats popcorn in the middle (or smokes crack like in the meme)
My brother in christ, he is taking a dab not smoking crack.
I like you. Have you asked the prez fog a cabinet position? Seems you could probably do a better job than his curgent batch of miscreants.
But I want to see him tell Trump to shut up again :(
I want to see Biden call him an Insurrectionist. Preferably to his face.
a spade is a spade, even if it’s not proven in a court of law.
I want to see Pam topless
I guarantee you will see it if Trump doesn’t run away from debates when it’s actually time. Both Hillary and Biden managed to knock him off kilter with on-message insults like that. We’re 50/50 to getting NO INSURRECTIONIST NO INSURRECTIONIST YOU’RE THE INSURRECTIONIST
Even without a debate, we’re already there, really.
