My only thing holding me back is my kids play Roblox and for the life of me I can’t get it working since they blocked it last year. Tried all the troubleshooting, vinegar, juice box, etc nothing works
I play along with my kid using Grape juice, was a bit fiddly to get cooperative but after a reboot it works consistently for me on Deb 12 through Flatpak/Flathub.
i play roblox through vinegar all the time and it works perfectly out of the box
I use Grapejuice. It’s a simple flatpak that I can install and it just works. You just need to go into its settings and choose between Vulkan, D3D11 or something else if the performance isn’t good.
EDIT: just found out about Vinegar, I’ll try it later. Apparently it’s better than Grapejuice
haven’t used windows in years. never looking back
You should try it. Quick and easy way to get some fresh air…
I am running mint on my dell and the only thing i am surprised is the bad battery life on Linux. I’m getting 1 hour backup while on windows i was getting close to 3 hours. Can someone help me out here?
Check the power saving settings of your desktop environment. Also check the CPU performance settings if they are separate.
Power management is quite frustrating on Linux, as this is supposed to be tuned by the OEM, but many OEM never bother to tune it on linux.
Even large OEM like dell only ensures all the hardwares work on linux. And many like hp and lenovo sometimes don’t even to bother make their hardware work.
This is why buying from small manufactures with good linux support is important. They not only support both windows and linux well, many often come with additional perks like built in country with reasonable labor practice, no phone tree in support, and supporting Linux desktop development.
Personally, my framework AMD has great battery life on linux by default. And I am sure manufacture like system76, tuxedo, slimbook, starlab, novacustom, etc. all works well.
Try a few of the options here. I personally have used powertop and tlp and they help, but the best mix for your hardware might be different.
I can second TLP, it’s wonderful.
There is a GUI for it as well that works well.
Don’t tell everyone. If people switch to Linux it will get shitty.
Why do you think so?
So serious question - are you supposed to dual boot window / Linux for some reason?
When I got frustrated with Windows - I wiped my hard drive and just installed Linux mint having literally never used Linux in my life. I didn’t like mint so I tried pop_os (someone here recommended it, thanks again!) and I see zero reason to go back to Windows now.
What is the point of going back to Windows when I can run everything i ran before on Linux now?
My games work better and I’ve found so many free open source alternatives to everything - it’s been really eye opening just jumping in. I’m glad I did.
My Windows install does two things
Piracy/modding for consoles when there isn’t a Linux app available < I could probably use Wine
Figuring out tech support for other people when they refuse to use Linux
One of the biggest things stopping me is that my partner loves to play fortnite so i play it with them a lot, is there anything to allow you to play EAC games? Iirc epic said they don’t want to account for security across every Linux distro
is there anything to allow you to play EAC games?
Steam has EAC available under Linux, you just install it just like it is its own game.
The developer has to specifically allow it though. Epic themselves don’t let EAC for Fortnite run on Linux because they don’t trust it as much as the rootkit version that only runs Windows.
The developer has to specifically allow it though.
True. But then that becomes a vendor problem, and not a Linux problem.
My point is that Linux went from 0% support for any game that uses EAS, to 100% support for any game that uses (and enables) EAS. There’s many more games that you can now play on Linux that you could not before.
It’s almost at the point where Wine can run more games than Windows. Most games from the Win98 to early WinXP era just run fine on Wine and don’t even show a title screen or glitch and flicker on Win10.
Basically the only road block I’ve seen is a lot of games using anti-cheat software just refuse to allow Linux. Some of it even has an option to allow it to run under proton and the devs don’t enable that option so it’s blocked. It’s basically them saying they don’t trust the Linux community not to cheat.
Then you get into the root-kit anti-cheat stuff like valorant uses which wants to load before the os and then control and monitor everything the os does and what hardware is connected… I’ve stayed away from the invasive as fuck anti-cheat games for years even before my move to Linux, so nothing lost there.
The Finals uses anti-cheat software and runs flawlessly on my machine. Such a shame these other developers won’t follow suit.
I dual boot purely as a way to help me separate my hobbies. Windows is where I play my games. Linux is where I stay on to my work or work on my personal projects. Separating the OS’s is basically just an organizational set up and it works for me.
Funny, it’s the opposite for me haha. Windows on work laptop. Linux on play laptop.
I used to dual boot for some work tasks and to play games. With OnlyOffice and Office365 in a browser, I can do everything I used to need desktop Window apps for. With Wine, Proton, and Proton-GE I can play all of my games in Steam or Heroic Launcher, so I don’t need Windows for games anymore.
There is still a usecase for people who need Windows for specific usecases; but for most people the only obstacle is learning curve (and don’t come at me with Mint, Ubuntu, and ElemntaryOS you’re lying to yourselves).
There was def a learning curve - but I kinda just forced myself to do it. I’m still figuring things out - but I have solved every issue I’ve run into so far - so I feel good about that.
I thought you’re supposed to dual boot until whatever version of windows you have EOLs and then look up the price of updating windows, say “fuck that” and just not boot windows again for a while and then eventually wipe it when you need more disk space.
Am I the only one?
Maybe some sort of software that runs better on Windows when you can’t run it through a tool similar to Wine. Even for that subset of software doesn’t work after running it within a VM gets smaller too.
If you program hardware some tools are only available on windows. Easier to just use windows in that case.
Or just use it in a virtual machine
What hardware do you mean specifically?
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Oh my, you just gave me a rapid fire slide show flashback.
But I’m in a much nicer software engineering job now. I am most certainly fucking not an automation/controls engineer!
On my duel booted system I still have windows. But I haven’t had to use it in a couple weeks and at this point might just delete it and go fully into Linux only. Just a few windows only apps that are making me unsure. Might try windows vm.
Honestly if I played any games that had anti cheat I would run a windows vm in QEMU/KVM. Go the GrapheneOS route and sandbox the spyware (cough Google and Microsoft cough)
Some anti cheats can detect that they’re running in a virtual machine and if they do, you’ll probably get banned for some reason.
Isn’t GrapheneOS a mobile OS? How would it work on a pc?
I think they mean that sandboxing Windows in a VM is akin to how GrapheneOS can sandbox Google apps, not that they would use Graphene on a PC.
Happy to be corrected though!
I have a Windows install that I haven’t booted up in 2 years. I didn’t really use it anyway. I just had one thing to finish there, but I am lazy.
I only used it for a few weeks after getting that laptop while waiting for Linux kernel 5.8 which would finally support that hardware as nothing older booted up.
I like the idea that Linux and Windows have a duel every time your system boots and the winner gets to start up.
I’ve been doing that since 2014. I run Arch btw.
me too, but only since late 2022
Here is my operating systems timeline:
2024 ain’t over, you might switch to TempleOS…
Did you stop using a computer between 1994 and 2001? I feel like there’s some interesting story in there.
Yes I did stop using computers during that time. While I had my Amiga in school only nerds had PCs, so I didn’t get one, even though I was programming on my Amiga with AMIGABasic and so on. I guess it was mostly because I started doing normal teenager stuff once I was 16 like motorbikes, cars, playing music, going to the clubs, etc. so there was no time and no desire to use a computer. Only once everyone seemed to have internet at home I started feeling left out a bit. for some months I started usincgcomputers in Internet Cafes and then decided to get a used PC.
You make an excel to track your operating system of choice for the year but don’t include the distro?!? For shame.
Ok, Ok, Ok, I added it now.
what’s between 1994 and 2001? MS DOS?
No, I just didn’t have a computer. I bought a MTX 80C and later a Ford Fiesta mk3, I also bought some Technics SL-1200 so I sould pretend to be a DJ:
In the end I just didn’t have the need nor time for a computer.
Ok of I really think hard I might get some pcs and os’s that I used since I can remember. But who has such a detailed list of os’s they use?
Are Raspberrypis included do work pcs count?
I rate A+ now, very good.
A hwhat
An extra large, it seems. I don’t get it either.
I use Manjaro BTW
Daily driving linux since i accidentally started formatting my windows drive while installing NixOS. Best mistake of my life.
Is this the new “I use nixOS BTW”? just sneak it into a nomal conversation like nothing happened? Legend.
I’d tell all the NixOS evangelists to shut up, but they’re immutable.
Oh they are bunch of flacks alright.
It is a fantastic feeling when you just finally say fuck it and run Linux only as your daily driver.
Me a few months back when I accidentally formatted the Windows drive I was keeping for dual booting just in case.
“Guess I’m a full timer now”
Me accidentally installing Fedora on BOTH my hard drives…
I heard you liked Linux so much, I installed Linux on ALL your harddrives
Imagine a 1tb drive partitioned into 16gb parts and a different distro on each. I have ALL the Linuxes.
Where can I learn such power?
Distrobox
Just realized I’ve got a wide selection: Windows, MacOS, Android, and EndevourOS, and Manjaro. (I haven’t booted the Windows box in MONTHS…)
Oh god… I just switched yesterday. Borked my windows partition while at it, so linux-only it is. The pain I had yesterday… Out of the box, WiFi was busted, fan curves were busted, RGB was busted, HiDPI’s is still busted, evdi is also still busted, solved surround sound just a few minutes ago. But hey, five problems solved in a day with two left to go is still much better than windows where a single damn bug in AMD software kept me going nuts for months with no fix in sight.
It gets better too. I suppose it depends on your distro and hand ware mix as for what works out of the box.
Eg. my pure AMD Rog Zephyrus laptop worked with Fedora pretty much “out of the box” once I enabled 3rd party drivers.
It’s kinda like switching to stick shift— it’s touch weird, but once you’ve daily driven it a bit the system is second nature.
Huh, stangely, I too have zephyrus laptop, but it’s a duo one, with quite unorthodox display setup, too. The wifi indeed automagically started working after install, audio required some pactl trickery as it has two sets of speakers connected to separate audio outputs, evdi might require some actual coding, since there’s no way to run one of the screens without it, and both synaptics and manufacturer-provided drivers look pre-alpha and don’t even compile… For the rest, https://asus-linux.org/ is a godsend. For HiDPI, maybe got any tips? I have a small 4K main panel, and a couple of big FHD displays. It looks like my options are to either leave dpi unchanged and have everything too small on main panel, or set it to 2 and have everything too big on secondaries, or to use gnome, not sure which is worse… Is there like a daemon, that can dynamically change the window’s DPI value, like windows does, that I don’t know the name of?
HiDPI was painful to setup for me. What DE are you using and are you on Wayland?
I’m on awesomeWM, it’s on Xorg, but I’m not dead-locked on it, though, hoping to try hyprland some day when I have time to screw around.
I’ve been using Linux every chance I could since Red Hat 5/Mandrake 6 - available at your local Walmart for $20US for a boxed set CD. So I now have a Cheap, Cheerful, Chinese mini desktop box just to install Linux on since all my old laptops have slowly given up the ghost one by one. I’ve always been a distro hopper and I missed the exploration. I’ve been running LM with Cinnamon for the last year and really like the stability, but it’s been a few years since I looked in on Fedora. And I’m getting the itch to switch again.
I have one laptop left that is running Win11 that I needed for some specialty software and now since I’m retired, there is little to no reason to keep it that way anymore. I suppose I will need to choose a single distro for that one. Maybe Ubuntu or SuSe Tumbleweed?
It’s amazing just how easy choosing a distro and getting it up and running has become. From RTFM and spending a month trying to compile a driver get a Sound Blaster Gold sound card to work on a 486, (I still have PTSD from that dependency hell), to just 20 minutes from start to finish on a new install and everything works.
I haven’t tried it myself yet, but I’ve heard that steam vr does not work well on Linux. Is that still the case? Occasional vr is the only thing keeping me from nuking my windows install.
Works great. Very occasionally I get an error (black screen) requiring me to disconnect and reconnect the display port adapter but I get the same occasional nonsense with my regular monitor too so 🤷.
Usually that happens after new Nvidia drivers too so…
SteamVR on Linux works out of the box if you have a Valve Index or a HTC Vive.
There are some others that work via ALVR but can’t speak about that.
Two caveats though:
- Valve likes to break SteamVR for Linux with every third update and then takes weeks to fix it
- It works but there’s a lot of issues with it. From incorrectly scaled UI, to missing features, to SteamVR Home not working for a year straight
Most of the time there are community workarounds but there’s only so much they can do.
Running Steam VR using Proton works great for me.
Windows 11 used to consume 3.5GB of RAM and Solus Budgie 4.5 consumes only 1GB…
For me Windows 11 used to consume 7GB of RAM, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma only uses 2GB
Damn 7GB is alot! Dafuq Microsoft was doing
And what exactly is wrong with that?
My MacBook Pro was 128 GB of memory is so desperate to fill it up that it gives the applications insane amounts of memory. That only took around 30 GB of memory, so the Mac also loaded the entire file system to the memory which takes around 80 GB. The whole system is super fast because it doesn’t have to read the files from a slow SSD, but from a fast memory.
It’s just a matter of how you look at it. The empty memory = wasted memory.
Bro, my laptop has 8GB of memory lol, and it uses 3.5GB of it just after the startup.
128 GB RAM? How much did the whole thing cost?
I think it was around 7.5k EUR. But because I bought and sold Apple shares with this in mind I’ve paid around 500 EUR for that thing.
