cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/11431091
The House passed the bill by a vote of 106 to 13, with many Democrats joining the chamber’s Republican majority in support of the bill. It now heads to the Republican-controlled Senate for consideration.
How the fuck do they plan to take down Lemmy?
They dont understand the internet, only censorship=good
they’ll just go to forums lol
I have very fond memories of the forums I was a member of as a teen and some of the chatroom sites as well.
I’d like to point out that for many of our LGBT+ youth living in hostile places, social media is their safe space. It’s tragic that such is the case, but I’ve seen maps where LGBT+ people post where we’re from, and some of them are kids in the middle of a reservation in a town with 20 people, and they’re all alone.
As much of a distaste I have for social media use in general, I often think about these kids and the reasons they have for using it.
I’m also well aware of the risks of kids being exploited via social media, but I’m not convinced the best answer is just shutting them off like this.
Yeah full agree. As a teenager the internet made me understand I wasn’t the only one like me. Reddit was a major player in that. Tumblr just as easily could’ve been. And I wasn’t even rural, I was just trans before anyone was willing to talk about us.
And yeah it’s not just queer kids. It’s also kids with abusive parents learning that that’s not normal. Social media probably has a net negative impact on teenagers, but I’d rather we focus on trying to fix the problems than just outright banning it. We’re too comfortable banning things these days
Hell, even as an adult living in an extremely conservative area, I greatly value my online spaces to remind me I’m not totally losing my mind.
Maybe comforting to think about it like this: kids find a way. Every generation has individuals that will outsmart restrictive methods out there for the masses.
“this isn’t social media, it’s uh, , er, gang web. Totally different!”
This all applies to disabled kids (and adults, of course) too…
People love to shit on social media, when actually they should be shitting on the rich and powerful who use it to manipulate society, not those using it looking to connect to others…
True! I’m sure this applies to many marginalized groups of people.
Matt Gaetz is devastated
Nah, 16-year-olds are young enough for him to settle for.
Social media goes against their educational programming. They want misinformed youth entering the workforce, can’t have any of the “leftist” social media contradicting their narrative.
What and who’s narrative? This sounds awfully “conspiracy”-ish. Please explain.
Reducing child labor laws, banning books, banning abortion, banning LGBTQIA+ related-activities and banning gender-affirming care…it’s clear they have a certain direction they want to take today’s youth. I expect that FL is leading towards a religion-based upbringing for the youth in their state.
And who is the “they” in your conspiracy theory? And what do you mean by “upbringing”? I feel as though you’re trying to claim schools are ultimately pushing this agenda. Is that your intention?
The Republican Party, particularly its populist wing. As far as schools, many are being forced into a variant on it through educational legislation such as don’t say gay bills and the book bans. Many charter schools seem to be intentionally aimed at this as well. But traditional educational institutions haven’t been willingly doing this which is part of why they’ve been subjected to these legislations and the political targeting against them in favor of things like “school choice”
Hi. I don’t have an intention, just putting in my two cents. The “they” is the Florida Republican party. By “upbringing”, I mean what they are pushing on the educational system:
As a leftist, I restrict access for my child until I he is mature enough to handle it and I can introduce him to it slowly. It doesn’t have anything to do with trying to keep him away from information. Anything he wants to know, we’ll look it up together or hit up a library. I can see clearly how unrestricted social media use is wrecking young people’s mental health and putting everybody into their own little bubble and dividing people. He doesn’t need that at this point in his life. He needs to play and be a kid for a little while longer.
I think social media use by someone way too young for it can be as damaging as showing young children hardcore porn. It warps your brain.
If you’re relying on social media for your information, I think it’s likely that you’re already misinformed.
It would also require that social media sites use “reasonable age verification methods” to verify users’ ages.
Aside from the general issue I have with this, this part especially worries me. What do they consider reasonable and would it involve potential identity theft if there is a data leak?
What do they consider reasonable and would it involve potential identity theft if there is a data leak?
Your talking about lawmakers that think could computing is a FAA issue. They literally can’t comprehend the question.
That’s why it worries me.
And just like that LISTSERV becomes relevant again. Today people would call it Social Media by email.
Orthogonal, but I have fond memories of the firewalls mailing list (greatcircle.com iirc) as well as the Usenet Oracle
Good luck enforcing that. On the other hand, I think maybe 13 is a good age to limit… but not as a law.
Most companies already have 13 as their policy. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/26/the-right-age-for-kids-to-be-on-social-media-experts-say.html
How many of them enforce it?
Chapter 356 in the book of laws the Florida legislature enacts which will be struck down by the courts for violating the constitutional rights of citizens.
So social media sites will just block Florida like some porn sites blocked some states. Won’t change anything because of VPNs.
Wouldn’t it be easier to put this on ISPs? They actually know your address. Social media companies can only guess. IP is not a guarantee that you’re in-state.
Ah, censorship at the ISP level. What could go wrong?..
