• Specal@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Alot of people don’t like Microsoft, but they’re pushing for zero password authentication for a reason. Passwords are getting really insecure really fast.

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      10 months ago

      How does Microsoft’s implementation work?

      Is it possible to log into windows without a Microsoft account using that method?

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        10 months ago

        Not entirely, but now MS, and a lot of other companies, are pushing passkeys. I still prefer password + hardware 2fa but it’s safer than people reusing the same password everywhere.

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          10 months ago

          I am a fan of passkeys. Particularly because they essentially function as hardware 2fa, except they’re the only factor, which isn’t as big of a problem because it’s not something you can steal in a service breach like passwords. I’ve also noticed that even when using passkeys, most sites let you force a TOTP code as well anyway.

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            10 months ago

            Very true, the big issue with them is a lot of popular hardware keys, including the yubikeys that I have, are limited to the number passkeys they can store (yubikey is 25 unique). Luckily password managers are starting to support them, but now you’re back to having a strong password + hardware 2FA to store those passkeys anyway.

            I do like TOTP or just hardware 2FA as a backup for my passkeys. What I really can’t stand is sties that only offer SMS as 2FA, it makes me more angry than it probably should.

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        10 months ago

        I just use their Authenticator app out of convenience, I get a notification when I login through it and it asks me to input the correct number given by the app, a 2 digit number.

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      10 months ago

      This vulnerability has nothing to do with password strength or security and everything to do with password reset security, i.e. email and improper handling of parameters to that reset API call.

      Passkeys are interesting and potentially quite strong but they’re going to have to fall back to the same old reset mechanism if you e.g. drop your passkey device (phone) into a lake.

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        10 months ago

        Or just make it clear your account is gone if you lose your passkey, so have a second key for backup or learn a hard lesson.

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          10 months ago

          Yeah, good luck with that. You can tell someone “if you lose this token, all data are unrecoverable”, they’ll reply with “ok, got it!” and about two and a half second later call you saying “Hey I lost my token can you recover my data?”.