“There have been racial barriers, and it has been challenging to be accepted as Japanese.”

That’s what a tearful Carolina Shiino said in impeccable Japanese after she was crowned Miss Japan on Monday.

The 26-year-old model, who was born in Ukraine, moved to Japan at the age of five and was raised in Nagoya.

She is the first naturalised Japanese citizen to win the pageant, but her victory has re-ignited a debate on what it means to be Japanese.

While some recognised her victory as a “sign of the times”, others have said she does not look like what a “Miss Japan” should.

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    Ah yes, the futile desperation to maintain “racial purity”, because that’s never turned out badly for anyone ever… 🙄🙄🙄

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      How well did that work out for Native Americans…? They were so overtaken they were forgotten lmfao.

      Not everything needs to be whitewashed, just look at native Americans, they’ve already even forgotten and this happened to them. History repeats itself….

      They can always go and make their own inclusive pageant, instead of the reverse happening in every country. Since they are more or less forced to be inclusive and give up their heritage so they aren’t protested by people who don’t understand.

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        They were so overtaken they were forgotten lmfao.

        Only by racists like you who actually think they no longer exist.

        History repeats itself….

        Thanks to wilfully ignorant asswipes such as yourself who refuse to actually learn it, let alone learn from it…

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          Their pageants no longer exist…. They had to go and remake their own and call them “native” since they aren’t Americans since they are white washed by people like you.

          I love how I’m apparently racist for pointing out white washing…. And no I didn’t say I forget them, I was pointing out people like you did, and yet you latch onto that as your fallacy. Fucking despicable attitude.

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            Have you considered maybe that the Japanese are nothing like the Native Americans, and that what’s happening in Japan has nothing to do with racism against the Japanese?

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              If you whitewash their culture as well they will be. Of course it’s different… until it isn’t anymore because of whitewashing….

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              Right? They invoke the genocide of Native Americans to defend the idea of Japanese racial purity being threatened by a single beauty pageant contestant, and I’m the one whitewashing… 🤦‍♀️

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                It’s absolutely insane, especially when it comes from those who claim to want to preserve ethnic identities.

                If they’re gonna invoke other national identities in conversation, the least they could do is learn about them. If anything drawing comparisons to ethnic cleansing over a fucking beauty pageant is more insensitive than pretty much anything else in this thread.

                Other than their connotations that someone cannot be a real Japanese because of their skin colour, that reminds me a bit about America’s history of treating black people.

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                  I didn’t bring ethic cleansing Into the conversation…… that was their stretch and half from me talking about Native American pageants having to be presented that way.

                  Since American pageants are about non-native Americans now.

                  How you came to ethnic cleansing from that… fuck if I know, but it’s fallacious at best.