Sorry for two new pinned posts within the span of 24 hours. after coming back I figured some of the rules needed some updating, and it is policy to put any rule change up to vote for the members.
The two changes I currently would like to make, is increased enforcement of the moldy posting rule, and a new rule banning AI generated content.
moldy posting is when you post a meme that you would find on your aunt’s Facebook page or Elon musk’s Twitter account. I’m talking properly old, moldy, watermarked, painfully irrelevant posts. I think we should remove them simply because they kind of suck, and removing them would raise the level of quality of 196.
I believe we should ban AI generated content because it is exploitative by nature, and I don’t think we should be feeding it.
please discuss in the comments, and vote on whether or not you think these changes should be made. vote on each change separately. if there are any other rule changes that you would like to suggest, now is the time.
I disagree with the rule banning AI content. Especially the dumb original imgflip AI can just generate super funny dumb captions to classical meme templates, and there is no harm in doing this (you cannot even decide with 100% certainty whether a human or an AI has generated it).
I also used to generate dumb nonsense jokes with the early open source LLMs (long before ChatGPT got released).I think saying AI content is exploitative in nature is a bit short-sighted and just generalizing about all the different types of AI. If I, e.g. program my own AI to e.g. play a game, and make a meme about that, that’s not exploitative. Imitating people’s art without their consent is something different though.
I think it would be good to revisit this rule and maybe specify what exact content are not allowed or think about this, since generally there can be good AI meme content (also on a meta-layer, e.g. about people who take obvious fake AI pictures as something real) and just outright banning all of them is a bad idea in my opinion.
I am in favor of both of these changes. I always feel lowkey like ive been tricked when i realize im looking at AI art, and the moldy posts just feel like mud to slog through sometimes.
I’m in favor of the anti AI rule but against the anti moldy posts rule
Also, could you remove that image from the post, I almost reported the post for “unflagged NSFW” because of it
Agreed on removing the image. I upvoted because I thought it was a regular post and not a rule change
I only visited this post because of the image & now I’m performing cunnilingus on a bowl of Mac & Cheese.
Please remove the image.
gormadt I would like to remind you of our NSFW rules. skimpy clothing is not considered NSFW, and neither are breasts. maybe if it was just the woman on the left, it would count as softcore porn, but in the context of my macaroni is a lesbian by Chuck tingle it is obviously more funny than “sexy”
Also agree entirely. The moldy posting is funny because it’s not and it deserves to be here.
I feel like both rules suffer from the same problem of spectrum. We can all point to a bad moldy/ai post and point to a good moldy/ai post. The issue is going to be those ones in the grey space between. It’s like the threshold test for obscenity.
“I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.” -Justice Potter Stewart
I agree ai generation can be exploitative, but I don’t believe it’s only exploitative. I’m sure there are fine artists out there who can use it responsibly to make genuine art. I think it’s like the Unity game engine. There are plenty of games pumped out that are just trash trying to make quick money, but there’s also gems being made by people with passion.
Most of my contributions are moldy memes so obviously I don’t agree with this rule. This would impact the already little effort I put into my posts. And I know effort isn’t something we put into 196 but that’s my observation. I’m willing to revisit this later.
I support banning AI memes because those require less than zero effort already.
Not sure about the first change, but I absolutely support the second one. Fuck AI “art”!
I’m in favor of both.
Moldy posting can be fun in sarcastic contexts, but I’m not opposed to a full ban since lots of moldy posts makes the sub overall moldy, too.
Gen ai is plagiarism and discourages creativity.
I don’t like the idea of increasing enforcement against moldy posts, just because I’m not super plugged in to things and I don’t always know if something is moldy when I post it. Over enforcement of those kind of subjective rules tends to make it difficult for newbies to post.
Completely on board with a no AI art rule though. Fuck AI.
I’ve Chuck Tingle posted in the past, so I was concerned that this was going to be an anti-Tingle policy, but fortunately it seems like it’s about other things
anti-tingle policy
I’d rather dieYou are the best mod <3
thank you
What do you mean by ‘increased enforcement of the moldy posting rule’? I thought we only had one rule? /srs
The rules are pinned to the community homepage. think of it like one rule, but lots of regulations
This is all I see pinned on the homepage:
And the sidebar:
that’s weird. maybe it’s federation issues?
I don’t see any rules either. I thought this community was like the Reddit one with minimal rules. A shame really.
That’s so weird it’s been pinned for like 8 months. also the Reddit community literally has rules
I can now see the pinned post so whatever you did worked.
Personally I think all rules should go in the sidebar and not a post but that’s just my opinion.
I agree to both rule changes. Thanks for modding!!! And Thanks everyone in m/196 for keeping me laughing!
Here here!
Also is your lawyer accepting new clients?
I’m sorry I’m afraid I don’t understand. what do you mean by that?
While I’m not good at impersonation, let’s just say that Mac and cheese rules. And once my true intentions are exposed, I’m going to need that lawyer… Lesbians are cool so I’m doing that thing now where I’m stalling and I’m searching for an answer…
whoever gets me this book for my birthday is getting their meat mcschlurped
Oh my, are you not familiar with… chuck tingle? With his numerous works of ground breaking fiction? Such as, “space raptor butt invasion”, “Pounded in the butt by my own butt”, “Absolutely No Thoughts Of Pounding During My Fun Day With This Kind T-Rex Because I’m Aromantic And Asexual And That’s A Wonderfully Valid Way Of Proving Love Is Real”, “ Trans Wizard Harriet Porber And The Bad Boy Parasaurolophus” and of course who could forget “Oppressed In The Butt By My Inclusive Holiday Coffee Cups”
real and valid
I’m in favor of “Moldy Mondays” as some people have mentioned.
And I support banning AI images, but not when it’s like a Twitter screenshot that says something about the image.
I really disliked this feature of many reddit subs where they’d have day of the week themes and posts. This idea in itself is moldy, its just reminds me of a smelly office atmosphere.
Eh, yah, think those sound like good rules but I wouldn’t worry about enforcing them to hard unless there’s someone flaunting them repeatedly.
