You understand how the internet protocol works right. This argument has been going for a long time now. Yes, they gave up IP address because they couldn’t win in court. They’re like the only company who will fight tooth and nail for you in court but the feds ordered them to do so, so they had to comply. The messages were all end to end encrypted and other than what metadata was requested, they didn’t get much.
This is such a bitch ass stance. Oh, gosh, the law requires it. Oh man, I guess I have to use an email service that works with the feds. Why bother having rights if you’re going to proudly throw them away?
And if you bothered to check it yourself instead of bitching about it based on some random guy’s post spreading FUD you might have found out Proton contributed to a legal fight that changed the Swiss law and made a repeat of this situation impossible.
The law - for good or for bad - is what defines rights. If there is a judge which says that an investigation has to happen, and also the companies ensured that the claim is legit (you see from the stats that the context 15-20% of the data requests), then what else can be done?
You cannot operate illegally, so either you comply or you shut down.
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You understand how the internet protocol works right. This argument has been going for a long time now. Yes, they gave up IP address because they couldn’t win in court. They’re like the only company who will fight tooth and nail for you in court but the feds ordered them to do so, so they had to comply. The messages were all end to end encrypted and other than what metadata was requested, they didn’t get much.
Company does a thing required by law.
Pikachu face.
This is such a bitch ass stance. Oh, gosh, the law requires it. Oh man, I guess I have to use an email service that works with the feds. Why bother having rights if you’re going to proudly throw them away?
There’s no “feds” in Europe.
And if you bothered to check it yourself instead of bitching about it based on some random guy’s post spreading FUD you might have found out Proton contributed to a legal fight that changed the Swiss law and made a repeat of this situation impossible.
The law - for good or for bad - is what defines rights. If there is a judge which says that an investigation has to happen, and also the companies ensured that the claim is legit (you see from the stats that the context 15-20% of the data requests), then what else can be done?
You cannot operate illegally, so either you comply or you shut down.
Yeah, based on a legal request - that’s how it should be. Our problems are not police listening in on criminals but unwarranted mass-surveillance.