• konki@lemmy.one
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      10 months ago

      But isn’t their point that the life expectancy of “biological men” also apply to trans women, and vice verca? That wouldn’t be conveyed if they used the prefix cis.

      This would of course only be relevant if life expectancy is a purely biological phenomenon, which I am not so sure it is.

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        10 months ago

        A fair point I hadn’t considered, but in that case AFAB/AMAB is still better than “biological male/female”, since that’s not even something most people know (I don’t know my chromosomal, hormonal, or DNA structures, do you?).

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          10 months ago

          AFAB/AMAB

          And what does that mean? Biological male/female seems pretty clear to me, whatever you’re born with between your legs indicates which of the 2 you are…

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            10 months ago

            Those mean Assigned Female/Male At Birth.

            And they exist because despite it being assigned that way at birth, gender or sex aren’t actually determined only by “what is between your legs”, nor are there just two binary options, since both gender and sex are a spectrum, not simply xx= vagina=female or xy=penis=male.

            Feel free to educate yourself

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              10 months ago

              not really relevant though, xx being biologically male/xy being biologically female are uncommon enough

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                10 months ago

                And yet, they deserve to be included and considered. 🤯

                (never mind that variation on the 3rd grade understanding of biology I described above are significantly more common than what I’m sure you’re willing to acknowledge. Sex and gender are spectrums, no matter how uncomfortable that might make you or how hard you try to deny it)

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              10 months ago

              Yeah I suppose, but using random abbreviations everywhere does not make the point any clearer

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                10 months ago

                You not knowing a term doesn’t mean it isn’t useful or important or crystal clear, it just means you don’t know it.

                So you could either educate yourself if you care, or don’t, but don’t try to frame the terms as the problem, or dismiss them (and by extension, the people who they apply to/benefit from their use) outright, that’s just a cop-out on your end.

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                10 months ago

                When the abbreviations are so commonly used that you can ask Google or Siri and get the right answer, then it’s fair to assume their meaning is clear to most people

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          10 months ago

          Yeah, totally agree with that. But as a commenter above mentioned, the difference in lifespan is probably mostly social anyway, so the whole biology aspect isn’t really relevant.

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        10 months ago

        A fair bit of the difference in lifespan isn’t genetic, it’s social. Statistically, men and women don’t do the same jobs, and some of those are much more dangerous than others. Men are also more likely to get into accidents and violence, leading to younger deaths.

        None of that cares about your genetics and your reproductive organs and hormones are only peripherally involved in it.