I made a post on r/civ (Civilization games subreddit) showing a really funky shaped randomly generated river I saw and most comments were fine but one guy was convinced that I went through the comparatively monumental effort of opening the map editor and changing the river for karma, as opposed to just starting the game and taking a screenshot.

And just to top it off another guy saw the fact that my scout unit was in the far north of the map and went on an obscenely condescending diatribe about how “ackshually” I should be placing my units in the far south of the map because that way I can explore better and whatever the hell. Dude did not stop for one second to consider that maybe the scout that was in the far north was exploring the cool river and that I didn’t waste any production points on him because I got him for free from a tribal village…

God every time I go on that website (because let’s be honest not a whole lot of good communities here for what I’m interested in) I get excited to share something super innocent and then some total loser has to come and ruin it all.

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    Hate to be the one to tell you, but that’s not a Reddit thing. Thats an internet thing. Those clowns are here too.

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      Also just a human thing because people do that in real life.

      Get enough people in the same place and they will be there, blathering and not shutting up.

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    When overwatch was pretty new i checked out the overwatch subreddit. I saw a post about how good the voice lines are in arabic of the newly launched hero Ana was, and their whole interaction with phara. Other people pointed out how accurate other voiclines of different languages were. So i took a shot at it and said that it’s weird that the mercy character who is from from Zurich, Switzerland speaks german, and not swiss german.
    People were shitting their asses about my comment. People explained to me that german and swiss german is the same thing, and people in Switzerland speak german. I respectfully explained that i lived in zurich, switzerland for 25 years and people simply do not speak german with each other.
    That did not matter tho and people from all over the world gave their two cents about what they think they know about the place where i grew up in.

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      I’m curious to know a bit about Swiss German now. Would the average German speaker from Germany understand it? Is there any desire to just call it “Swiss”?

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        It depends. People from southern germany would understand it mostly. But the more north you go the less they understand it. People from austria tend to understand it pretty well. But we have a lot od different accents as well. But it also depends on the accent. Some thick accent is really hard to understand.

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        No, an average German speaker from Germany wouldn’t understand it. It’s basically an extremely heavy German dialect, belonging to the group of Allemanic German dialects. Non intelligible dialects are not uncommon in many parts of Germany, though. In some German regions (e.g. southern Black Forest), the local dialects also belong to the group of Allemanic dialects. The locals from there might have a somewhat easier time getting used to Swiss German dialect varieties.

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      Not so sure about the “all over the world” part - I think it’s pretty common knowledge in Europe even among non-German speakers that Swiss German is a bit of a different animal, and I don’t imagine many people from Asia or Africa joining in with strong opinions about this either.

      Not pointing any fingers, but I have my suspicion where those people came from.

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      I just googled “what language do they speak in zurich” and the first result is Swiss German

      That sounds incredibly annoying

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        Google is wrong though. They simply speak German. I’ve only been there once, briefly, and you don’t know that, but you should trust me anyway.

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    I went to Reddit today and in a subreddit, they were literally joking about firebombing someone and how it would be disappointing if someone did it.

    Reddit is basically truth social 2.0 at this point

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    I noticed the same a couple months ago. After the API shutdown stuff happened, I largely left reddit. I would only go there for things I needed, like information and news related to my field.

    But in October, I started going back more, and even commenting. And almost immediately, I got the “well ackshually…” comments and just so much unneeded aggression. People just looking to be right by ignoring 99% of the correct information in a comment and focusing on that 1% that’s weak or, sure, wrong. And it was over dumb stuff, too.

    After being on reddit for 13yrs straight, I guess I learned to be blind to it all. Like I knew it was happening, I saw it all the time, and I’m sure I know I even did it myself here and there. Hell, I was/am still a mod on a reddit; I saw it everyday. I did start getting tired of reddit and redditors about a year ago, but I just kinda brushed it aside.

    Anyway, it wasn’t until leaving and going to Beehaw and Tildes for a few months, and then going back, that I realized how bad it actually was on reddit. It’s so glaring to me in threads all over the place. And that there was no desire to improve or change things. That that’s just reddit’s culture and that’s how redditors like it.

    As such, I’ve still kinda kept some distance from reddit. I’m still there, but I don’t think I’ll ever go back to how I was using the site pre-APIgate.

    Further, I actually get angry when I see people on Lemmy engage in that redditesque way of just looking for confrontation and being smartasses. We left reddit; why are we bringing that mentality with us? If I saw someone on a Beehaw community acting that way, I call it out.

    That’s one of the reasons I support Beehaw potentially leaving Lemmy to do its own thing. I see Tildes and see how a standalone forum and community can exist and function well and productively, without all the “gotchas” and just unnecessary aggression. That’s not to say Beehaw (or Tildes) is perfect. That behavior can be found everywhere. But at least there’s a desire to try to stamp that out.

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      If I saw someone on a Beehaw community acting that way, I call it out.

      That’s one of the reasons I support Beehaw potentially leaving Lemmy to do its own thing.

      I’d rather Beehaw didn’t leave Lemmy, and instead “calling that kind of behavior out” got more popular on Lemmy instances… at least on the ones federated with Beehaw. But we’ll see.

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    I used to love reddit. Especially because it was so diverse. So many communities living side by side generally pretty well (except the well-known toxic communities of course that we all knew to stay away from). And the everything-goes attitude, like people discussing religion on the same site as people exhibiting their sex lives :P I used to love seeing that kind of diversity (ok and the exhibitionism too, I admit 🤭, I’m just into that.). I just loved the everything-goes feeling about it.

    But two things went wrong as I see it. One was that US society got more and more polarised and toxic due to Trump and most of reddit’s users are from the US. Even the people who used to be pretty nice are so triggered by anything you say “wrong”, they always think you’re trying to pull them into an argument for the “other side”. It’s like they have PTSD from being constantly attacked by the other side and it causes that knee-jerk reaction on anything that doesn’t fall 100% into their narrative. I got so sick and tired of that hostility especially because I was not used to it locally. That thing you mention, where you say something and someone always claims you’re making it up to make a point or karma or whatever is so familiar and tiring.

    And the other thing was of course that idiot spez. Trying to clean up reddit for his precious investors by removing (or locking away) anything not above the belt, killing third-party apps, etc. I still go there once in a while to gather some information but I stay away from discussions and I rotate my accounts every couple of months. So I don’t give a crap about karma because I kill my accounts anyway. In fact even when I did have a long-term account I used to “shreddit” it every couple of months so karma was not something I ever cared about.

    The sad thing is that this Trump toxicity has now even blown over to my country (Holland). They elected a total fascist 2 months ago and the same thing is happening there now, there are lots of people claiming they were never heard and now their hero is going to drain the swamp and kick out all the refugees and all that same old blahblah. Several of my “friends” were caught up in this BS and I’ve had to break off all contact with them. 😡

    Even Lemmy is not free from this, I joined lemmy.ml for a while but I found it pretty toxic too. Lemmy.world looked similar. This is why I came here and it’s been great so far.

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    Originally reddit was a niche site with few visitors that was full of knowledge and a strong sense of community.

    Then during Gamergate (2014), several organizational subs were created by rancid basement dwelling mysogitrolls that soon found that not only did they not get banned for doxxing and harassing people, that they gathered even more rancid basement dwelling mysogitrolls to their ranks and realized they weren’t as rare as they worried.

    Then 2015 rolled around and a SHITTON of alt-right wastes of their own father’s protein came around for the whole trumpfest that reddit became at the time.

    And they never left.

    On the other hand, a ton of people who created content and supported other users with meaningful replies all decided it wasn’t worth the constant harassment, doxxing, malicious reporting, bigotry, botting and refusal of the admins to address said behaviors.

    And we left.

    So the only redditors still there are either shitstains or too emotionally invested to leave yet.

    And that latter group will get smaller and smaller as the shitstains become louder and more emboldened.

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      So it’s gradually becoming Truth Social. Got it.

      Seriously though, I’ve been using Reddit since probably about 2012. I never really put time into analyzing it’s demise. I didn’t care enough. Thanks for the information. 🙂

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      So the only redditors still there are either shitstains or too emotionally invested to leave yet.

      Most likely the majority, although this generally doesn’t apply to users of specialized subs.