Australian lawmakers have banned the performance of the Nazi salute in public and outlawed the display or sale of Nazi hate symbols such as the swastika in landmark legislation that went into effect in the country Monday. The new laws also make the act of glorifying OR praising acts of terrorism a criminal offense.

The crime of publicly performing the Nazi salute or displaying the Nazi swastika is punishable by up to 12 months in prison, according to the Reuters news agency.

Mark Dreyfus, Australia’s Attorney-General, said in a press release Monday that the laws — the first of their kind in the country — sent “a clear message: there is no place in Australia for acts and symbols that glorify the horrors of the Holocaust and terrorist acts.”

  • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    This can only work if they change their neuliberal ideology and the myth of the free market regulating. They have to answer the issues of the inequalities. Otherwise, they banned symbols and profits. But, the ideology will still be present. And this one, you have to address social and systemic issues to fight it.

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        The recent round of anti semitism incidents has nothing to do with nazis, though, I suspect the same in Australia, this is probably politicians bring politicians more than anything.

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          It’s not even antisemitism related.

          My state did this already last year and it’s to combat the alt-right/white supremacists. Jewish people don’t really factor into it as much as their hate for Muslims/Black people.

          Trying to tie into Oct 7th and antisemitism seems like a bit of propaganda.

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    “No one in Australia will be allowed to glorify or profit from acts and symbols that celebrate the Nazis and their evil ideology,” the press release said.

    Glad to see someone mention the Profiting part.

    I’ve always suspected a lot of this was due to grifters stoking these A-holes up to increase sales of the flags, shirts, hats, etc.

    The Brandon thing was a big boon to the Maga grifters as it created more new things one needs to collect to show your true level of being a Patriot.

    You could then change out your Trump flag curtains for the Brandon stuff. Some are brave enough to change them out for the Nazis stuff when the time is right too. It completes the set when combined with the Southern Surrender flags as your curtains or bath towel.

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      I suspect that is also why their memes are quite slow to cycle trough. A lot of prolific figures need to sell their stock of stupid tat before they can move on to new things.

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      The Brandon thing was a big boon to the Maga grifters

      Here’s a good one: I like to by small-time silver bullion, and ebay is actually a decent place for that. The first time I saw gimmick silver coins and bars with Trump’s face on them, I was like wtf. And even to this day, there’s some seriously wtf stuff out there all geared towards the maga persuasion.

      It would be pretty comical, if it weren’t so crazy how much he’s being idolized. He’s being elevated to the level of Reagan worship, even before he’s been planted in the ground. I’m calling it now: After Trump croaks, the GOP is gonna try and pass a law to create a permanent federal Trump holiday.

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      If there’s people wearing a hammer and sickle on their arms going around being violent shitheads, then yes.

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      I don’t know how in your country but any symbols of radical regimes are banned, including the ones supporting radical communism.

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      And the USSR was a state capitalism regime. I personally prefer extrem capitalism to define it.

      The human was seen as a machine and health care as the repair shop for them. Breaks were provided to let the machine “cool down”. And the capital was in the hand of a handful of people.

      The ideology was here to control the minds.

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          Tell me you think capitalism is working just fine without telling me you think capitalism is working just fine.

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          Of course it has been tried, it even has been successful! See e.g. Chiapas and Rojava.

          What’s true is that Marxist-Leninist-Maoists have never tried socialism, which shouldn’t be too surprising given that they’re authoritarian which inevitably leads to state capitalism. Heck Socdems are more socialist than MLMs.

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          It hasn’t, and even the Soviets would have agreed.

          But real (anarcho)capitalism hasn’t either.

          Oh wait, no, it has, and it became a dictatorial shithole every time lol

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    I mean, I’m fine with that. That seems like something that should have been done a while ago.

    It’s when they try and extend such things to saying any criticism of Israel is illegal, like what Germany is trying right now.

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      Germany is not doing that at all. Germans are just aware of their past and almost all will therefore be careful what they say and also point that out to other Germans. It is not forbidden to criticise Israel though and probably it never will be. Most Germans will just be the last to do it on their own individual initiative.

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          Classic Germany. Goes from Nazist to Progressive so hard they end up on the other side of the spectrum back in Fascist territory.

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          It’s a poorly written article that confuses with its wrong translation of “Staatsraison” and omits the classification of Samidoun as a wing of PFLP, declared a terrorist organization by both the EU and the US. Supporting terrorist organizations is illegal. People getting canceled does not necessarily mean they did something illegal, and there hasn’t been a discussion about criminalizing criticism of Israel.

          Criticizing Netanyahu’s actions is very popular in Germany. It’s just true that the German government does not do that enough.

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        It’s a common “official” response from Western governments in light of justified criticism of the State of Israel’s policies on Palestinians. The idea is that Israel is perfect because it was founded by Holocaust survivors and they can do no wrong and anybody that questions that is a Nazi.

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        I meant the hateful symbol of crossed hammer and sickle not the game.

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          Is it wrong to make a light hearted, with no ill intent comment?

          But that symbol/symbology is part of many countries flags. Look up Angola.

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            It’s different from using it as a hate symbol. Learn to read.

            Is it wrong to make a light hearted, with no ill intent comment?

            But that symbol/symbology is part of many countries flags. Look up Angola.

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              I am perfectly capable of reading.

              And just to aggravate you a little further: there is a communist party in my country, that still sports that simbology with no evil conotation. It is still a symbol of labour.

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    other hate symbols

    such as? am I going to prison for owning a black flag?

    The new laws also make the act of glorifying OR praising acts of terrorism a criminal offense.

    I will not stop praising or glorifying climate protestors laying across lanes of traffic. you being a little bit late to your soul sucking 9 to 5 isn’t an act of terrorism.
    The word Terrorist is already used as a truncheon against dissidents. Convicted Terrorist is about to become the 3rd gender in Australia.

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      On the internet words like terrorist, fascist, and genocide seemingly has lost all meaning. It’s just an expression of dumb emotions.

      But in a court of law these words do have defined meanings. The internet != real life.

      And yeah a law in which the intent is to reduce antisemitism by banning symbols carried by antisemitic people may result in it being illegal for you to display your black flag in public if that same flag as carried by people who promote violence against Jews.

      This might trigger some introspection in some people about why they’re in possession of symbols that are also carried by people that promote racist violence. Is there is significant difference between your black flag and a swastika in terms of how those symbols affect people?

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        The big problem with these laws is that the people legally defining these words are including non violent acts such as protesting.

        if I say we should abolish the senate that’s not terrorism … unless you’re a senator.

        and if you know anything about the black flag you know I don’t stop at the senate.

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      While blocking roads isn’t terrorism, being late can have serious consequences for people. Not everyone has the ability to show up late with no consequences. Trivializing people getting fired, getting smaller raises, being late/ missing medical appointments,… is not going to help your cause.

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        meanwhile truck drivers blocking tunnels because they don’t know their clearance don’t go to jail.

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          They’ll pollute even more as they’re idling on the highway waiting to move instead of getting to their destination more efficiently.

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            Damn the protest might add an extra 0.0000000000001% to our annual pollution.

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              Alienate people to your cause and increase pollution. It doesn’t seem like an effective way to protect the climate.

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                “I was going to support not causing the extinction of our species but someone made me late to work one day, so I support climate change now due to spite”

                Said nobody ever.

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                  It’s more I don’t want to associate with this group they made me lose my job and then said suck it up its for the greater good.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “No one in Australia will be allowed to glorify or profit from acts and symbols that celebrate the Nazis and their evil ideology,” the press release said.

    The landmark new laws were introduced as Australia tries to get to grips with a spike in antisemitism in the country as the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza rages.

    Preliminary data released by the Executive Council of Australian Jewry showed a rise in antisemitic incidents in the wake of the bloody Oct. 7 terror attack on southern Israel by Hamas militants, which the Israeli government says left more than 1,400 people dead.

    Israel launched an immediate war on Hamas in response, which health officials in the Hamas-run Gaza Strip say has killed nearly 23,000 people.

    In October, unverified video went viral online showing a small group of people appearing to chant antisemitic slogans at a pro-Palestinian demonstration outside the Sydney Opera House.

    A video posted on social media on Oct. 8 by the conservative Australian Jewish Association group purportedly showed protesters launching flares and chanting “Gas the Jews” and other antisemitic refrains.


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