• jaeme [e/em/eir, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Israel is in fact a diverse society

    Yes the “Jewish state” is a diverse society. Where the the first class citizens are all “good jews” recognized by the state. Any lesser Jews or god forbid Arab peoples are second class citizens.

    From an antifascist perspective this meme is absolutely unacceptable

    Imagine being this fragile of a person. Log off now lmao.

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      10 months ago

      Yes the “Jewish state” is a diverse society. Where the the first class citizens are all “good jews” recognized by the state. Any lesser Jews or god forbid Arab peoples are second class citizens.

      I condemn the racist politics of the right-extremist government of Israel and the social segregation and severe injustice it causes. What is your point?

      From an antifascist perspective this meme is absolutely unacceptable

      There was this thing you all constantly choose to ignore, called the holocaust, that afaik not just a lot of antifascists see as a reason why Israel must exist, simply because otherwise the Jews will not survive capitalism.

      Imagine being this fragile of a person. Log off now lmao.

      But I´m having so much fun with you guys here?!

      • Clever_Clover [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        I condemn the racist politics of the right-extremist government of Israel and the social segregation and severe injustice it causes. What is your point?

        Israel is an apartheid state, this isn’t new, this isn’t something that the current government did, this is the establishing principle of the state that has been held up since the start, calling an apartheid state “diverse” like you did in your first post is absolutely incorrect and is not close to the reality of the situation in any way shape or form, it’s pure propaganda

        There was this thing you all constantly choose to ignore, called the holocaust, that afaik not just a lot of antifascists see as a reason why Israel must exist, simply because otherwise the Jews will not survive capitalism.

        having suffered in the past does not give a group of people free reign to commit those same acts against a separate unaffiliated population, having an ethnostate in the first place is not a good goal, but even if we said it was necessary, doing it through the ethnic cleansing and genocide of another group is not at all justifiable in any way.

        treating things as if jews are simply different from regular people and could never survive as a minority in another country so they should not be judged by the same standard we apply to everyone is in itself an anti-semitic view to have, jews are regular people, committing genocide and ethnic cleansing is bad, whoever does it and however noble their goal is doesn’t change that fact.

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        There was this thing you all constantly choose to ignore, called the holocaust, that afaik not just a lot of antifascists see as a reason why Israel must exist

        the vast majority of jewish people in eastern europe post-war didn’t migrate to either the autonomous oblast the USSR set up or Israel and chose instead to live in the eastern bloc or USSR proper, so they probably count as ‘a lot of antifascists’ that don’t see a reason for Israel’s existence