• hOrni@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      I’m guessing, he’ll stop paying his workers, surround the factories with barbed wire so they can’t escape and tattoo numbers on them to easier keep track of what they are doing.

      • endeavor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        13 days ago

        Not a stretch his companies are already filled with racism and it has been legally proven so many times.

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Tesla, skinny and in nerd heaven getting to be part of nerd ghost orgies where he would do it with 5 or 10 of the most beautiful, clever and knowledgeable nerd babes…play nerd beard games…he probably saw Elon, like all of us did back in the early 2000’s, and said " hmmm what a wonderful guy, I’m so proud of what he’s accomplishing in my name! But now, after countless rolls in his grave, he’s just taking it one day at a time. During the last orgy…Tessy! Touch my beautiful round and curvy monopoly figures please!.. Hold on, Elon just did a Nazi salute!..oh my God!.. Tesla, you called? Yeah, did you see what Elon did again? Yeah another Nazi salute! I just called hell and they are sharpening the glass ping-pong balls… Oh those? No, they don’t play ping pong, those go up his butt where they break. It’s a first day thing… He’s due there when he turns 93. Yeah we’re going with a pretzel. Its funny as heck, that’s why!

      • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Don’t worry Catholic flying daddy is all over this. By the time Elon turns 93…must be divisible by 33… He’ll choke on a magic pretzel and die a very funny death… Like if you were watching thru binoculars, it would be funny…WTF is Elon doing now? Practicing his Nazi salute? Keeps pounding his chest for some reason, and pointing at his mouth! But he’s literally eating! That’s a couple of awkward gestures, don’t you think?

            • barsoap@lemm.ee
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              13 days ago

              My armchair tells me to tell you that you have two options:

              • You could watch Loony Tunes until all the patterns get expressed as comics when you close your eyes. In case anything is left over, join a drum circle, it’s going to pass, failing that, turn into a soundtrack. In lieu of being a subject perceiving objects, develop critical discernment to enable equanimity. Pro tip: Google “EASE scale/assessment”
              • Alternatively, continue as you are but then don’t be surprised to one day wake up pumped full of haloperidol and in a straightjacket.
  • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    All I see in this thread is a bunch of sore losers focusing on one thing to justify their hate and bias. Must suck to always be miserable.

    • FediNeko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      13 days ago

      A lot of us are shocked we even reached this point as a society, we didn’t even make it 100 years. Floored, shocked, flabbergasted, i could go on, many people have different reactions. The general consensus (at minimal) is that this wasn’t appropriate. It also not one thing, calling it as such minimizes societal dynamics of the world as a whole. People are definitely sending this instance around like crazy, but it encompass what many people have warned about for years.

      I dislike being correct, I envy some people, I want to close my eyes, I want to just do the 9-5 grind.

    • masterofn001@lemmy.ca
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      13 days ago

      Fuck your feelings.

      And your mom.

      I’m sure you love everyone, though.

      Must be wonderful to always be kind and charitable and empathetic to nazis.

      • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Thank you for keeping the hateful rhetoric alive, friend. Never said nor implied that I’m empathetic to Nazi’s, but if you’re going to fully believe that Musk is a full-fledged Nazi, go ahead. I just think people are overreacting.

        And it’s fun to watch. 81 million people voted for Biden in 2020. Only 75 for Kamala in 2024.

        Where did your 6 million friends go?

    • Furbag@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      Says the little bitch who probably blubbered nonstop for four years about Biden for every single gaffe and flub.

      Nazi punks fuck off.

      • ysjet@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        13 days ago

        Dude’s comment history is horrifying. He certainly seems to be a subject matter expert about being always miserable, since he clearly makes everyone around him such.

        • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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          13 days ago

          Thanks for noticing. I’m just poking the bear.

          Should have told more of your friends to blindly vote for Kamala to avoid Trump’s wrath. She was only 6 million short.

          • masterofn001@lemmy.ca
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            13 days ago

            You’re really obsessed with the number 6 million.

            I wonder why that is.

            I was hesitant, but now I have no issue calling you a Nazi, too.

            Stay happy, buddy bro guy pal.

            • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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              13 days ago

              I did Nazi that coming. That was out of Left field. But I wish you nothing but happiness. Take care, they/them.

      • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Look at you spreading that hateful rhetoric you accuse the right of doing.

        Good job keeping the hate alive.

        • Furbag@lemmy.world
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          13 days ago

          My hatred of Nazis is not rhetorical. You bet I’ll keep that hate alive until the day I die.

          • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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            13 days ago

            That’s good. Fuck the Nazis. Is Musk a Nazi?

            I’m not sure. He may be a shithead, but is he one? Because of a gesture?

            IDK. Nazis tried to exterminate the whole Jewish race. That’s a bold accusation.

            I don’t hate you thou. You seem like a good person.

      • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Let me ask you something. I just want to make sure you’re more than just a headline reader.

        Are you calling Musk a Nazi because you just saw the gesture?

        • moup@lemm.ee
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          13 days ago

          Idk about them but I am calling him a Nazi because he retweeted Jewish white replacement plot bullshit saying it’s “the actual truth”, keeps talking about how “tHeY” are manipulating people, has been successfully sued for racial discrimination at Tesla, and a bunch more in addition to a plainly obvious, textbook Nazi salute he did, twice.

        • masterofn001@lemmy.ca
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          13 days ago

          Let me ask you something.

          Where did your daddy hurt you?

          And how many Nazi dicks can you suck at once?

      • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Are you more upset at Kamala Harris losing or at Trump winning?

        Because if you voted for Harris just to vote against Trump, you may be a low informed voter.

        Must suck to settle for less. We were fucked either way, I can understand why you’d vote for what you believe is the lesser evil.

        Good day.

    • tree_frog@lemm.eeEnglish
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      13 days ago

      I’m trans.

      Focusing on one thing, such as my gender, is what Nazis like Musk do.

      Musk giving a Nazi salute, combined with his rhetoric and pro-Nazi censorship on X, isn’t one thing. It’s many things that all demonstrate that yes, Musk is actually a hateful and bigoted Nazi. Who won’t be happy until folks like me are working in concentration camps waiting to be gassed.

      • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Hi trans. I’m hellsfire29.

        Pleasure to meet you.

        Musk said it was a kind gesture, that it wasn’t a “Nazi salute”.

        But it doesn’t matter what Musk says, just how it makes you feel.

        Left wing media does the same thing, as they censor and utter similar rhetoric.

        But they pander to their audience, as the right does to theirs.

        No one cares that you’re trans. It’s your choice. No one else’s. It is gender dysphoria after all. Just think, it was considered a mental illness. It can be, in most instances.

        Good luck to you. May you live a long and prosperous life past 2028.

      • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        I laughed at the sore losers in 2020, as I’m laughing at you people right now.

        Maybe if we all worked and lived for each other rather than for a political party, maybe humanity wouldn’t be as petty and vain.

        I wish no Ill will towards you or anyone.

        They’re both corrupt. One is just more subtle than the other.

    • caboose2006@lemm.eeEnglish
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      13 days ago

      Yep. Musk is a racist anti-Semite. Not surprised he’s so well practiced on the nazi salute

    • Howdy@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      13 days ago

      It sucks that this is where we are. America once the defeaters of Nazi’s. Now appointing billionare Nazi’s with influence to government positions. Fuck man.

      • Crikeste@lemm.ee
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        13 days ago

        Well, we started out with a genocide so terrible Hitler idolized it and called it “The First Great Cleansing”. Also, you ever seen this image from the 1940’s? It’s in Madison Square Garden.

        Also, when did America join the fight against the axis powers? Oh, 2 years after the war began? Only after Pearl Harbor? You’d think a country so moral would join the fight against genocide quicker.

        Also, it was the USSR that “defeated” the Nazis.

    • mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de
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      13 days ago

      Hmm, but how did they play the audio? Just having a really powerful loudspeaker besides the projector? Or was it just edited into the video?

      • in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        13 days ago

        A bigger, louder ‘0’ is still equal to 0, but with more wasted effort to boot. The question is why Berliners still like Naziism enough to leave that building standing is what I wonder when they shine a projector on it for a day and call it anything. I would say they’re doing a lot more to waste effort, energy, optics, and time than being on lemmy.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      14 days ago

      The photo of Ellen and the “HEIL” appear to be projected onto the wall of the factory

      • Syrc@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Wait, how does this work? The video is meaningful like this, but it doesn’t really say much without the audio, and I doubt they let them put up speakers powerful enough for that to be heard (?)

        • RedditWanderer@lemmy.world
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          14 days ago

          Why would this backfire? You think germans and their gigafactory subsidies are going to like the nazi salute so much it will increase his popularity?

          • stebo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            13 days ago

            the afd will, they will say it’s okay because musk isn’t a communist (unlike hitler, according to them)

          • nialv7@lemmy.world
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            14 days ago

            Do you think there are no Nazi sympathizers in Germany? Don’t you see AfD on the rise there?

            Most of the people seeing this isn’t going to know the context (i.e. this is a protest). If you strip away the context, this is just a blatant public display of the fascist salute, which many there have wanted to do for so long but couldn’t because they feared the consequences. This could very well embolden them.

            Like, if you just look at the photo, it even straight out says “heil Tesla”, for crying out loud. If this is a protest, they did a piss poor job of it. At least put a clown makeup on Elon’s face, what are they even doing.

            • Lemminary@lemmy.world
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              14 days ago

              Most of the people seeing this isn’t going to know the context

              You underestimate how much American news dominates the world news. Greetings from Mexico.

            • spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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              14 days ago

              Yeah, the average German won’t have heard about Nazi space karen throwing the heil. Especially after he was just there defending Nazis. Who would even know about that, just because it’s world wide news and involves something very poignant to the German people?

              🤡🤡

            • RedditWanderer@lemmy.world
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              14 days ago

              Most of the people seeing this isn’t going to know the context

              Ok there, sources needed. It almost sounds like youre shilling for them. Next youre going to tell me he was just waving!

            • Deacon@lemmy.world
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              14 days ago

              Some people just slept in the day they were handing out common sense.

              I envy you the beauty sleep.

            • Bz1sen@lemmy.world
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              13 days ago

              Why are you downvoted? I am from Germany and you are totally right. With a lot of people in Germany this will 100 percent backfire. The educated already knew that Elon is a garbage nazi, the others will more so believe how he is such a cool guy and the savior of the planet

              • bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                13 days ago

                Yeah, I‘m from Germany, too and I am very pessimistic regarding a fascist revival. The AfD is constantly gaining votes, while liberal parties adopt many of their policies. It‘s becoming cool to be a fascist

            • jj4211@lemmy.world
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              14 days ago

              Have a lot of meetings with Germans. The morning after the inauguration, every one of them asked what the hell was wrong with us that we had a Nazi salute in our inauguration. The context is very very well known over there

            • x1gma@lemmy.world
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              14 days ago

              Don’t you see AfD on the rise there? The AfD is not only rising because of Nazi sympathy, but also because of protest voters, a literal fuckton of drama around pretty much every other significant party, too many deaths being instrumentalized, and a disfunctional current government. Latest opinion poll: https://dawum.de/Bundestag/ - so “only” 20% support them.

              Most of the people seeing this isn’t going to know the context (i.e. this is a protest). If you strip away the context, this is just a blatant public display of the fascist salute, which many there have wanted to do for so long but couldn’t because they feared the consequences. This could very well embolden them.

              Even german news are full of the orange idiot and his millionaire friends doing their escapades, and you seem to imagine most of the german population sitting there applauding him? “Blatant displays of the fascist salute” are NOT what many here want to do, but what most would like to do without consequences is punching a Nazi straight to their face.

              If you haven’t realized, many european governments shifted right because the populism of those parties exploited and used the political tensions and the accumulated anger for the past failures of many left and green hardliners very well.

              Germans are not more right or have more Nazis than many other European states, and given the hereditary guilt, less than many.

              • Serinus@lemmy.world
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                14 days ago

                I get his point, even if he didn’t state it eloquently. There are photography elements here that look kind of cool. Yeah, most people will focus on memories of history and, you know, how Nazis are fucking bad. But the danger is if something like this recruits anyone. Some people fall for anything with a cool font, even if it tarnishes the font for a lot of others. If I see a swastika, I want to see it carved into a Nazi’s forehead. I don’t want to see a stylized swastika with cool lighting effects that might appeal to a small number of idiots.

                It helps that Elon’s face looks particularly stupid.

                I don’t know that I agree with his argument, but I can see a grain of truth in it.

                • RedditWanderer@lemmy.world
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                  14 days ago

                  “But the danger is if something like this recruits anyone”

                  What if calling out racists actually encourages people to become racist!! Better not mention racism at alll then amarite…

                  Also let’s just stop arresting people for crimes completely, what if someone hears that this dude murdered his wife and then everyone starts murdering their wife?

                  /s obviously but this is what you sound like. You sound like a bot trying to discourage this from being seen by appealing to people’s liberalism…

                • x1gma@lemmy.world
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                  13 days ago

                  I get both your and his point, I personally just disagree, because I do not think that closing your eyes and ignoring it prevents people from being “recruited”.

                  In my opinion, this attempt and attitude has given the AfD in Germany (and probably several others) the space to grow, paired with a black and white mentality: the general attitude is mostly - either you vote left, or you’re a nazi, end of discussion. There is no longer a political spectrum in discussions, it’s us or them, left or right, normal or nazi, and I think that this is very, very bad. I think that a democracy should represent everyone, since what makes us a free and democratic state is that everyone is part of it, is represented, and has his freedom of thought, speech and beliefs. Making “having thoughts aligning with the right” a taboo only makes it more interesting, especially for younger people, and given that pretty much every Internet community also generates echo chambers (one or many), it makes it more attractive to potentially end up in one, where those people will realize that they can talk openly here, which makes them more susceptible to further radicalization. And to make it clear - violence of any kind is not included in the freedom, neither by the right, nor by the left.

                  Instead of focusing on how to prevent people from shifting right, which you simply can’t, I think we should focus on how we can prevent some people from shifting right, and some people from shifting further right, which is perfectly achievable by proper education, applying a spectrum of views and leaving space where more people do not feel left out.

                  Part of a left and democratic mindset is that all people are made and worth equal, tolerance, and an open mind. In the left versus right discussion there are more than just leftists, nazis, and nazi sympathizers. There are people who may be just not smart enough to figure out that they are just caught by polemic, populism and propaganda, or maybe who don’t even know what they are getting into. There are people who are just protest voting. Hell, even the deepest far-right nazi hellhole has or had people who are trying to leave it.

                  Sure, the actual nazis and hardliners will applaud that Musk picture and see and use it as confirmation and propaganda, and you won’t be able to influence them otherwise with that. All other groups in between can be influenced though, even though in both directions.

                  Specifically for Musk - his general public image has shifted very much from a technological and financial genius to a narcissist right hardliner multimillionaire, because of his actions and people publicly exposing and talking about them, and still he has a big cult of supporters who’ll be on his side till the end. And honestly? That’s fine, but I personally am very happy to see the general shift.

        • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
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          14 days ago

          I’m concerned you don’t know what a protest is. Or possibly think modem Germans like the Nazi salute!? I don’t know…

  • thefatfrog@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    This is fake though. The letters don’t match and there is no other pic on the Internet to prove, it happened. But the fact it seems real, speaks volumes :D

  • Kokesh@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    13 days ago

    This will be great for business. If I had Tesla, I would try to get rid of it.

    • slaacaa@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      I’m working in Germany, and I see a lot of people complain about Musk and switching from Tesla, which was a very popular even a few years ago.

      The people who can afford overpriced EVs are also the ones who can afford the “virtue signaling” to switch to another brand - especially as now there are a lot of great alternatives, many of them cheaper and better.

    • GiddyGap@lemm.ee
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      13 days ago

      Assuming you can sell the Tesla, doesn’t that just mean that there are just as many people looking to buy a Tesla?

      • jj4211@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        You may be taking quite a loss but someone would buy it. As an extreme of you offer to take one dollar for the Tesla there would be plenty of potential takers because a cars a car.

        Selling used for cheap also puts pressure on new car demand.

    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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      13 days ago

      Haha, I saw someone already selling elon salute stickers to put on Teslas. I kind of feel bad for anyone who bought one used or a long time ago.

      • Xanthobilly@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Don’t feel bad. If you bought one in the last 8 years, you weren’t paying attention because he had already called the diver who rescued the soccer team trapped in a cave in Thailand a pedophile because they refused to use his horrible, horrible submarine idea. The man has always been megalomaniac.

        • ToxicWaste@lemm.ee
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          13 days ago

          everyone of the top 1% has to be a megalomaniac. openly supporting nazis and displaying their symbols is an entirely different thing.

          • Xanthobilly@lemmy.world
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            13 days ago

            I’d raise the bar to top 0.1%, or better yet, not make it an absolute cutoff. Physicians and engineers fall in the 1% and I have to believe many of them are highly skilled, driven by subject matter, and desire to do good for humanity.