I mean like:
- Chinese (Edit: Mandarin Chinese) will become the lingua franca of the world
- The Internation Aviation Language will (probably) become Chinese (replacing Aviation English)
- Lunar New year becomes a popular holiday (like Chrismas is currently popular worldwide)
- The Internet will use mostly Chinese Chracter
- And instead of 26 Latin based characters, you’ll have to learn thousands of characters, imagine that 😅 (or just use a translator tool 🤷♂️)
- There would be a China version of Hollywood, taking over the original Hollywood
- Fengshui becomes a thing that the world starts to care about
- UN Headquarters now located in Shanghai (I’m guessing this is the most “international” city in China, right?)
- Boeing is dead, some Chinese airplane manufacturer now dominates, competing with Airbus.
- Baidu is default search engine (now with less censorship due to democrarization)
- Harmony OS (Huawei’s Android fork) become the new “Apple”, iPhone is now insignificant, ranking below Motorola in terms of market share.
- Either Windows get brought by some Chinese Bussiness person, or there China makes a Linux distribution that starts off as Open Source with some proprietary components (like how Android is), then eventually becoming Closed Source once they overtake Windows. Lets call it PandaOS (I’m not creative with names 'mmkay)
- etc…
Sounds like an interesting world 🤔
What do you think?
They’ve had a bunch of mass attacks by knife and vehicles. Guess what the CCP does?
Improve quality of life? No. Make chef knives harder to obtain? Yes Profile childless men and monitor them? Yes
Are you familiar with gun violence in the US?
I don’t understand why you would connect these two things. Since when does any power’s foreign policy treat those in the rest of the world as if they have any of the rights afforded to their own citizens? The US certainly doesn’t.
I don’t think we have a choice, and the US having the largest military in the world doesn’t really mean anything unless we just want to kill everyone.
There has to be more than one superpower. Humanity is too immature to behave itself without the threat of mutually assured destruction.
Most of the bullshit American hegemony really started to ramp up after the fall of the USSR when the US found itself unchecked. It could basically go in and fuck up whatever country they felt like. At least during the cold war, they had to consider the possibility of a power equal to their own countering them. Without a check and balance on the world stage, the U.S. has proven itself repeatedly to be without a doubt, the villain of the story.
Most of the bullshit American hegemony really started to ramp up after the fall of the USSR when the US found itself unchecked.
Every single U.S. president since WWII - except for maybe Carter, who had his hand forced - is fully deserving of being brought up for war crimes. American imperialism never really intensified after 1991, it just stepped out from the shadows and became more overt.
Sure why not?
China will never be democratic. English is there because it’s easy. There is no default search engine (but there would be one if “democratic” China controlled everything…), same for your Linux crap, who would install this without being forced when there are already a thousand better alternatives.
Sounds boring, you described what would happen if a dictatorship ruled the world (and no whataboutism with the USA, I’m also immune to what they are doing).
China will never be democratic.
“Never” is a long time
I’m sure people back then thought we’d never get rid of monarchies… but then most monarchies are gone
But we’re not rid of them yet, so who was right?
The only issue I see with your plan is keeping the Chinese writing system. Alphabets are superior, even if you write Chinese with them.
Otherwise as long as my ideas about how the world should function get put into practice, I don’t care who does it. By chance of history US was the one who brought quite a few good ideas into the world, mostly in the second half of the 20th century. But there’s nothing fundamentally American about having good ideas.
I’d be too worried about the CCP backsliding, but if it theoritycally collapsed, and the ROC swooped in to take its place, then yeah I’d be fine with it. Better than Trump’s america
To be fair, Chinese is only slightly harder to learn than English
That depends on where you are coming from. English has enough German and Latin roots that most of Europe has a head start when learning English. (linguists will define roots different from what I’m using and say English doesn’t have Latin roots, but there is still significant influence)
If you are coming from an African language though it probably won’t make much difference. Though in Africa there is a good chance your nation was controlled by Europe over the years and so you might know enough of some European language to make English easier.
Basic Mandarin is actually pretty easy.
Becoming even day to day fine doesn’t take long and has fewer tricks.
Getting good enough to read literate classics, or use 成语 in your speech though takes a long time and effort.
That reading and speaking are basically independent skills though is odd to folks used to Alphabetic languages.
Me being OK with a specific nation as superpower had zero impact on weather or not that nation becomes a superpower or not.
I wouldn’t be okay with any country being global super power except maybe Albania.
dont forget kuwait 😡
When you refer to becoming democratic, you mean like how it has been until a couple of years ago? Or, are you referring to China suddenly becoming Capitalist instead of Communist?
Or, are you referring to China suddenly becoming Capitalist instead of Communist?
China is already capitalist. By “Democratic” I mean as in Liberal Democracy.
So they can turn fascist again?
Why?
I think the main thing which I would have problems with would be the collectivism and confucionism which I really can’t stand. I don’t think it’s necessary to replace English, it’s not American anyway. The rest sounds ok to me, as long as they don’t kill my normal Linux.
collectivism
I mean, Covid would probably be handled better. Look at the democratic Asian countries, they did much better than the US.
Not worth it in my opinion.
I get what you’re saying here, But there are like 3-5 democratic countries in Asia, and even they didn’t fair the best with covid. I think it’s the US that was exceptionally bad, not the countries that handled it greatly.
As for the rest i’d rather live in a flawed liberal democracy than an efficient autocratic dictatorship.
What do you dislike about collectivism?
I can’t stand that everyone is forced by sociaty to be the same.
I’m not like you, I have my own thinking, my own style, by own taste in music, my own taste in food, etc. etc.
I really like diversity. Let’s look at the music from mainly collectivist countries like China or Korea. There is K-pop and uhm I guess that’s all I know (and I live in Korea). Then let’s compare it to the a individualistic country I lived before like Sweden:
- Electronic Body Music
- Metal (with all it’s subgenres)
- Rock
- Pop
- Electronic Dance Music
And each of them have their own subculture. Yeah you get the point.
Wait, you think collectivism is when everyone is forced to listen to the same music?
Those seem to be some of the long term results of the parts of conformism like conformity, group priority and social harmony.
Lol okay then
Just a “Lol” no more explanation?
When you say “Chinese” becomes lingua franca, do you mean Mandarin? Cantonese? Yue? Hakka? Other? If Mandarin, do you mean Jilu? Jiaolio? Other?
I don’t think “Chinese” or any sinitic language ever becomes the global language. Translation is becoming so simple, I would expect any new global initiative can work in 3-4 languages simultaneously.
UN headquarters relocating - I think it would be more likely the UN collapses and is replaced by something else with China leading.
The Chinese movie industry is already huge, we just don’t see much of it in the US.
Lots of Chinese people aren’t into fengshui. That’s kind of a bizarre stereotype for you to pick out of everything mentioned.
The aerospace industry in China has a ways to go before they can be classified in the same tier as Airbus. They are getting better, but still heavily rely on borrowing designs instead of creating their own.
Baidu, HarmonyOS, a computer OS - fine by me to add more options.
What I actually hope is the idea of a single global superpower dies completely. It’s not even the current reality for the US; it’s just propaganda.
When you say “Chinese” becomes lingua franca, do you mean Mandarin? Cantonese? Yue? Hakka? Other? If Mandarin, do you mean Jilu? Jiaolio? Other?
Mandarin Chinese. (I had this in mind when I was typing it, but then forgot to type it 😅)
Lots of Chinese people aren’t into fengshui. That’s kind of a bizarre stereotype for you to pick out of everything mentioned.
Idk, my parents are very into it, so I just assumed its a standard thing. The friends that my mom talk to seems to discuss superstitions a lot. My parents wouldn’t buy a house with the number 4 on the street address.
(For Context: My family and I were born in PRC)
I meant more like “Chinese Superstition” rather than just “fengshui”, but the “fengshui” term was more widespread so I just used that instead.
What I actually hope is the idea of a single global superpower dies completely. It’s not even the current reality for the US; it’s just propaganda.
Yea I don’t like superpowers either, but this is more like a “If you had to pick” type of question.
Maybe it’s a generational thing, or geographic thing?
My wife was born in a village near Xi’an, and lived there for ~22 years
She isn’t into fengshui, and doesn’t adhere to any major superstitions (I guess other than you have to keep your belly button warm 😂)
I don’t care which country is the global super power as long as it adhere to the liberal world order and all that comes with it.
I want to leave in peace, enjoy my human rights and not have to worry about other countries using arms to push their will.But also: a lot of those points have nothing to do with who the global super power is
But also: a lot of those points have nothing to do with who the global super power is
I mean, Americanization of the world was helped by the fact that US became a global superpower.
Absolutely, soft power is definitely relevant.
A lot of people in the global south might say they don’t want it to adhere to the “liberal world order”
You’re speaking from a position of privilege, and suggesting that you should keep your privilege
I don’t care. The question was if I was okay with China as the super power and my answer is that it don’t matter as long as it adheres to the liberal world order.
Get off your high horse.
China
it don’t matter as long as it adheres to the liberal world order.
Well, they don’t.
I would even say, the distance between China and a liberal world order is more than the diameter of our planet.
For sure lol
“I’m on board with change in the global order as long as we maintain hegemony”
very valuable contribution thank you
Hegemony of whom? Lame ass comment
Hummm the “liberal world order” is 100% “countries” using arms to push their will. Countries being “the west”.
And YOU having “human rights” is not really dependent on the “liberal world order”. Most of your rights were won by blood and tears during the late 1800s and early 1900s, through popular movements mostly ideologically aligned first with anarchism then with communism.
Also, the vast majority of the world not having human rights and being colonized and exploited IS your “liberal world order”.
So not really sure how you specifically benefit from western imperialism, unless you are a billionaire ofc. Which I highly doubt.
adhere to the liberal world order
And YOU having “human rights” is not really dependent on the “liberal world order”. Most of your rights were won by blood and tears during the late 1800s and early 1900s, through popular movements mostly ideologically aligned first with anarchism then with communism.
You are correct in that the liberal world order is an effect of previous hardwon freedoms. What is your point? The LIO makes sure that if my government tries to take these freedoms from me it invokes international support. So a malicious government will not only have to deal with domestic pushback, but international as well.
Also, the vast majority of the world not having human rights and being colonized and exploited IS your “liberal world order”.
…which is why these countries are under sanctions for example. Take Venezuela as a case. But yes, the postcolonial debate is ongoing.
Lmao vuvuzela ok gotcha
Boom got’em
What
Oh sorry, didn’t look at your instance. I realize now that you just wanted to shit on the liberal world order, not make a point
