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    17 days ago

    What is “This will lead to the end of Europe” even supposed to mean? Will every inhabitant die? Will the land mass disintegrate?

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        17 days ago

        Europe already “ended” and had “replacement” events so many times in the past it’s hard to keep track. Yet it’s still there.

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    17 days ago

    I think he does know how unpopular he is in europe and he’s just doing putin’s will by intentionally stoking division between the US and its major allies.

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      17 days ago

      No. He’s trying to get right wing extremists into power, because they won’t stand in his way if he treats workers and nature as his property.

      He got reigned in by unions, environmental activists, agencies and society in general when he tried to ignore every law and regulation he could find at his Berlin gigafactory. That pissed him off big time and it’s not the only time it happened.

      He’s a petty little man with too much money.

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        they won’t stand in his way if he treats workers and nature as his property.

        Unfortunately it’s not just him. The reason Elon supports right wing populism in europe is so that him and all the other US oligarchs can buy out all the gains european people made as a result of mass movements and the threat of the spread of communism. Public health services, public transport services, environmental protections, consumer protections, paid holidays, disability pay… Anything that is worth anything will be sold off to the US oligarchs for pennies on the dollar while the top guys in AfD, NF, FdI, Reform UK etc. get their cut. Any and all safeguards standing against the looting will be removed and if any single country tries to resist, they will be drowned under the weight of tariffs.

        This is of course nothing new, US and European countries have done exactly this to countless countries on the global south throughout the 20th century. What’s new is the crosshairs of the big dog is now turned on europe.

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        17 days ago

        stoking division

        get right wing extremists into power

        The two are certainly not mutually exclusive.

        But I don’t think elon going on about some BS is gonna do that much to embolden already surging russian-backed right wing groups in europe. I think eroding us-eu relations is likely to be the stronger impact.

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        17 days ago

        It’s insane to me that one of the richest people in the world, and still making more every second, cares so much about new ways to hurt people so he can continue to make even more.

        Because of this, I feel that it has more to do with gaining power over making money. He appears to be at the stage where he just wants to control everything and absolutely believes he is entitled to do so. At this point, it probably doesn’t even cost that much to do whatever he wants, so why not take it as far as everyone will let him.

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          17 days ago

          It’s called elite projection. They believe that they personally not only know everything and are right all the time, they also want to force everyone to think like them. It’s the same mechanism as with stalinism.

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    17 days ago

    The more you guys give this man media attention in this context the stronger he will become. The parties will choose sides and it will make him a defacto leader in which ever side he ends up on.

    I’m not sure how to handle this, but in the US trump and elon got so big BECAUSE liberals hated them so much. They are like cheer leaders for assholes.

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        Yeah, I understand that and I’m not sure what can be done about it. In the US we gave up on having accountability in news reporting, and that is fucking over international journalism by… contamination or something.

        I’m sorry world. I wish we had done more and better.

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          In Belgium, we used to have this tacid agreement amongst the press that they wouldn’t talk about mistresses of ministers and kings. Because it was seen as just a private matter. It doesn’t hold true all the time, but it shows that the press could decide to just not talk about folks like Elon unless they really have to. Not sure it would still work these days, now that most journalism has been replaced with copy pasting an article an making the title a bit more click-baity than the previous one…

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    17 days ago

    No the last time we let Europe make decisions on there own the Middle East happened. Europeans need to be held in a leash manner they can’t make decent decisions or history wouldn’t be such a shit show.

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      And when the USA makes decisions “on there own” we have Talibans, almost nuclear wars, economic crisis, global spying of the Internet, and many more…

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        17 days ago

        Elon shouldn’t do shit but Europe throughout history is not good either you don’t get good options in real life.

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    17 days ago

    Unfortunately, shitheads like him have a way of festering popularity. Strap in Europeans, you’ll be seeing more of him, and many spawned Rowan mini me’s like him

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    17 days ago

    To be fair, I do feel fairly hopeless about my situation in Europe. But I’m happy I’m not in America and I know that any idea of Musk’s will make things worse

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    17 days ago

    Please Elon, come to Europe!

    We need you so bad here!

    See you soon!
    Luigi

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    17 days ago

    Can he go fuck himself, I like sending my kids to school without body armor and I like free healthcare

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    17 days ago

    Yeah but all that and other consumer protections make it harder for him and the other robber barons to get even more filthy rich off of us.

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    17 days ago

    I also think that many Europeans are pessimistic about the future. The reason for this is Musk, Trump and their cronies. It is the lingering concern that things could get as bad in Europe as they are in the US.