Summary

Elon Musk faced backlash from his followers on X after advocating for importing “super talented engineers” to address a shortage in the U.S. tech industry.

Musk likened hiring top foreign talent to building a championship sports team and argues that there is a shortage of talented and motivated American engineers.

Critics argued there’s sufficient U.S. talent being overlooked or underpaid, with some pointing to widespread tech layoffs.

Musk dismissed claims of low wages or training gaps, maintaining a need for exceptional engineering talent to advance innovation.

  • DrFistington@lemmy.world
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    22 minutes ago

    Yeah, when you import your slaves you can pay them less and they’re more subservient because they don’t want to be deported. It also drives down the wages for US citizens that perform the same jobs. News flash, there are plenty of good software engineers in America. They just aren’t going to work 60 hours a week for 60k a year while the company they work for posts billions in profit each year.

    If you need my skill and time to make a million dollars, I better be getting at least 15-20% of that profit. Employers can obviously afford to pay it if they can give a CEO that barely does shit 250 mil plus stock options

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    13 hours ago

    I was browsing reddit and the liberal side of it from politics to bpt and cscareers and I love how they’re getting redpilled on Indians and immigration. It seems they finally care when the jobs are personally affecting them. Liberals in their ivory tower are finally getting to smell what they sowed.

    • frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe
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      You hate immigrants because you’re a racist

      They hate H1B immigration because it allows people like Elon to freely set up sweatshops of smart immigrants who have built a home in this country and now have their chance to keep living in that home tied to the random whims of a billionaire.

      Not the same.

      The H1B system in concept is great but it’s ripe for abuse by men like Elon. One I’m aware of is that paperwork is way behind on the gov side and it’s kind of a lottery (will our coworker be here in the fall? Let’s spin the wheel!). Another is that larger companies can from what I understand put in a request for many more spots than they need and since it’s a lottery be fairly confident they’ll get the spots they really wanted, while small companies have to suffer at the whims of chance. And I’m no expert on this but I’d say another key area that sucks is its just a bizarre design by committee system. As Americans we want to steal other countries best and brightest and H1B is like a DMV version of that goal.

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      12 hours ago

      The left’s been saying we should prosecute the employers exploiting immigrants rather than the immigrants themselves for… well, ever.

  • AnIndefiniteArticle@sh.itjust.works
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    Musk replied. “OF COURSE my companies and I would prefer to hire Americans and we DO, as that is MUCH easier than going through the incredibly painful and slow work visa process. HOWEVER, there is a dire shortage of extremely talented and motivated engineers in America.”

    I’Ve BuRnEd OuT aLl ThE WiLlInG nErDs hErE aNd I nEeD tO bUy SoMe FrOm OvEr ThErE1!1!

  • bitwolf@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    Is there a shortage?

    Or are you only looking at Bay Area hires because I see a great number of good and bad engineers in Midwest and eastern parts of the USA.

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      2 hours ago

      I’ll break the flow of shitting on Elon (a hobby of mine, but it gets old) and say yes, we have a large number of engineers. Yes, a lot of them suck real hard. Good ones are often promoted to the level of their incompetence, others are just well-polished incompetents who know how to talk the talk. So…yes, there is a shortage. However adding more to the pool won’t fix the bad hiring and promotion practices in the industry.

      Also, doesn’t really matter if there’s a bunch in the Midwest if you can’t convince any of your existing staff to uproot to some racist pro-trump place with extreme temperatures (assuming you want some level of in person interaction). Texas is only palatable because the place they’re moving is Austin which is…not quite as racist. And tech bros have never had a reputation for being pro women.

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      A shortage of engineers willing to work for Musk-led companies, maybe. Tesla is well-known in tech circles to have awful work culture. You can only survive with high turnover like that for so long before most American engineers know that there are much greener pastures.

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        A shortage of engineers willing to work for Musk-led companies, maybe.

        Not maybe at all. Every tech group I’m in would rather work fast food than do a 90 hour week under Musk.

        I used to be in a group during the 2022-2023 era where we shared memes of recruiters who were trying to convince engineers to go to Twitter. The meme well dried up when all the recruiters were fired.

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      17 hours ago

      Yes there is a shortage, a shortage of workers who are unable to say no without being threatened with deportation and compensated with far lower non-competitive wages.

      The industry is flooded with American workers though

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        17 hours ago

        There is becoming more and more of a shortage of good engineers who want to work for companies associated with him I am sure. All they have to do is read about his business practices.

        He believes in overworking, underpaying, and is anti-unions because he knows they would fight against the wages, policies, and work practices he wants to force against people.

        Elon Musk is anti-workers. And thus, since workers are the fabric of this nation… Elon Musk is anti-america.

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      11 hours ago

      Well he saw that the only people willing to work at Twitter were extremely desperate to stay in the country

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      18 hours ago

      He’s not stupid. He’s abusive. He knows what he’s doing and why. He will save millions and keep the wages of his pool of talent depressed.

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        Bit of both, Mysk didn’t even complete his college degree. Being born into money does not, by default, correlate to intelligence

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      18 hours ago

      Well, I’m not sure I’d call it stupid, exactly. He wants indentured servants, cheap. It’s about accruing more power and wealth to himself.

      Now, our government should be set up to STOP unregulated capitalism like this, but at this point, it’s been captured by the capitalists, and they are basically there to give a huge assist to capitalists instead.

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      19 hours ago

      I just want him to be a little bit stupider. A little bit more to cross over the “mix household chemicals and fucking die” line.

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      19 hours ago

      For that comment, yes. It appears that the author has limited it to signed-in users only. This is one way to ensure that the Bluesky moderation tools are applied to everyone who might view / screenshot / interact with the post in question.

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        19 hours ago

        This is one way to ensure that the Bluesky moderation tools are applied to everyone who might view / screenshot / interact with the post in question.

        What mod tools? Shouldn’t need a login to view or screenshot. Interaction should require an account but I see no reason for the others.

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          Completely agree. This a grab for leads by Bluesky. Not exactly something I like to see in social media platform outreach tactics…

    • Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee
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      19 hours ago

      christ it should be a rule to never post links to sites that require accounts or logins when sharing information about a discussion without also providing screenshots or a non-account mirror.