Summary
Elon Musk faced backlash from his followers on X after advocating for importing “super talented engineers” to address a shortage in the U.S. tech industry.
Musk likened hiring top foreign talent to building a championship sports team and argues that there is a shortage of talented and motivated American engineers.
Critics argued there’s sufficient U.S. talent being overlooked or underpaid, with some pointing to widespread tech layoffs.
Musk dismissed claims of low wages or training gaps, maintaining a need for exceptional engineering talent to advance innovation.
Right-Wing bootlickers continue to learn they aren’t in the in-crowd they desperately seek to join.
Is there a shortage?
Or are you only looking at Bay Area hires because I see a great number of good and bad engineers in Midwest and eastern parts of the USA.
A shortage of engineers willing to work for Musk-led companies, maybe. Tesla is well-known in tech circles to have awful work culture. You can only survive with high turnover like that for so long before most American engineers know that there are much greener pastures.
Yes there is a shortage, a shortage of workers who are unable to say no without being threatened with deportation and compensated with far lower non-competitive wages.
The industry is flooded with American workers though
I seriously doubt there is a shortage anywhere in the U.S.
The Muskrat wants cheap engineers that will work like China’s 9-9-6.
He’s so fucking stupid. It’s exhausting.
He’s not stupid. He’s abusive. He knows what he’s doing and why. He will save millions and keep the wages of his pool of talent depressed.
Bit of both, Mysk didn’t even complete his college degree. Being born into money does not, by default, correlate to intelligence
Well, I’m not sure I’d call it stupid, exactly. He wants indentured servants, cheap. It’s about accruing more power and wealth to himself.
Now, our government should be set up to STOP unregulated capitalism like this, but at this point, it’s been captured by the capitalists, and they are basically there to give a huge assist to capitalists instead.
I just want him to be a little bit stupider. A little bit more to cross over the “mix household chemicals and fucking die” line.
So you want TWO Trumps?!
Globalism for me but not for thee
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Is there a Nitter for Bluesky yet? [googles]
Not sure which comment you wanted…
why, would you rather have a less shitty internet?
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What mod tools? Shouldn’t need a login to view or screenshot. Interaction should require an account but I see no reason for the others.
So a bullshit excuse
Musk is currently fighting with Laura Loomer over this and even pretended to be someone else in order to argue with her over Twitter Spaces and it is very, very funny to watch.
christ it should be a rule to never post links to sites that require accounts or logins when sharing information about a discussion without also providing screenshots or a non-account mirror.
Not sure if there is something better…
Software engineers can devise lots of interesting ways to depose. He’s gonna radicalize the smart people.
CEOs man…
What is so incredible is that the education system in the US is so fucked that so so so so SO many high skill, high education jobs need to be brought in from overseas. Meanwhile Elon just wants to fuck over the education system in the US even more.
The reason why he wants to bring in foreign labor is, in all likelihood, to make his employees more easily controlled. Expats are less likely to raise a fuss about their living conditions and may not have much of a connection to the political movements around them to take part in protests. Also if those employees have their visa’s dependent entirely on the whims of their employer, if they DO get uppity in any way, they can face almost immediate deportation upon being fired.
In short, he does not give a fuck about Americans. It is 100% about control and exploitation.
And what happens to us who were born here? Where are we supposed to go when all the jobs that we could fill are being taken by H1Bs and Optimus robots?
We are all meant to go fuck ourselves.
And what happens to us who were born here? Where are we supposed to go when all the jobs that we could fill are being taken by H1Bs and Optimus robots?
these immigrants are not taking the jobs that most Americans work. high-skilled Indians and Chinese are filling shortages in engineering, doctors, etc. vast majority of Americans are not competing with these groups
Immigrants. Expats is a classist term.
Can we ask Musk to volunteer to become the world’s first recorded instance of a Mellified Man? Then science can determine if it’s truly a medical marvel or not. He’ll be the only one to have done it! I think his ego might go for that.
Plus it’ll be sweeter when we eat him. Candied CEO sounds kinda good.
Finally, you could sincerely call him a sweet man
Super talented = extremely desperate foreigners who’ll work 90hr weeks for very low pay.
Just in case anyone needed a translation.
I was “lucky” enough to be around during the dot-com meltdown and seeing H-1Bs still being used/abused, even as so many citizens were being cast away. This scam has been around for quite some time. The cap was 115K in 99 and 2000.
Perversely, when the bubble really started taking its toll, the cap was 195K from 2001-2003.
During much of this time period, you’d look around and see 200 people applying for one cruddy junior/intermediate type of software engineer position. Why the cap was not zeroed out in emergency legislation tells you all you need to know about anyone looking out for Americans who work for a living.
Companies claiming things are so dire that they just cannot find the local talent are so very full of it. If they were the least bit genuine, they’d be paying HIGHER wages to the people they do bring in on a visa and they’d be lobbying for permanent status, not this six year max thing.
Now if Elmo was talking about basically being a worldwide talent scout to bring people here with full citizenship status AND being paid top dollar, we’d be talking something different, but if he’s talking about more H-1Bs, it’s the same old shit as it ever was…
And who are really indentured servitude type slaves
What I’m reading is that he wants Chinese or Indian engineers because they are as qualified as the next guy, they’re already used to insane hours and no holidays AND he can just pay them their original wage, which is peanuts compared to what US engineers make. Also once he’s done with them he can just deport them. What’s not to like?!
The broligarchs have always loved the H-1B fraud.
The future of the US
It’s crazy that these politicians can just make wild claims without providing a shred of evidence. The just get to “dismiss.”
Stop that, please.
Musk is not a politician.
Do not normalize this by even referring to him as such. He has never held elected office.
Musk is not a politician.
So, why is he the one giving orders to Veep Donold?
The guy is absolutely an unelected politician. He’s Trump’s puppeteer and will be using his money to get what he wants.
He’s an oligarch interfering in politics. That makes him a politician, as well as an asshole.
He’s more than qualified. All you need to be a politician in America is capital. The actual law is typically sidestepped in favor of monetary gain. How is this any different than our usual goings-on? This is the most American thing that’s happened in years.
You’re still pretending the law and constitution mean a damn thing in practice. They’re gonna roll it up and smoke it next year.
He didn’t explain to them that holders of H1B visas have to stay with the corporation that hires them or else they get deported. It’s semi-slavery. Conservatives would love it.
The ones that know about it already love it very much.
That’s the only way to keep salaries depressed, which is why they’re brought in. If they could switch jobs, there’d be competition among potential employers and the salaries would increase. The whole H1B scheme is a filthy racket. It depresses the wages of non-H1B workers, it exploits those on an H1B visa, and there’s a whole cottage industry of faking recruitment campaigns before showing that a company was “forced” to fill a critical skills shortage with an H1B holder. For example, the qualifications can be written so that only people on certain Indian of Chinese computer-science courses can have the required coursework. Not that the applicant necessarily took the course, though: there’s another cottage industry in India and in China of people doing exams on someone else’s behalf.
And then there’s industrial espionage…
Yep. What I don’t get is when people that are supposedly “nationalist” aren’t even patriotic enough to just open up immigration so that the talent pool stays HERE. It’s all about just short-term profits for private tyrannies and everyone else can apparently go fuck themselves, citizens included.
