Ok, I am not supporting bestiality here. But, I just came to know about a Dogxim, a dog fox hybrid and I had known for a long time that horses and donkeys can breed (to produce a mule). So, I was just curious, can humans breed with any other animals closely related to us?
As other commenters point out, not since the extinctionof Neanderthals, Denisovans, etc. But even if it were possible, the hybrid would not be fertile: our chromosome 2 is a fusion of two chromosomes that are separate in other related species, so there’s no way meiotic crossover recombination could possibly work.
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I assume closely related hominids which are now extinct. Neanderthal DNA is present in current human strains, which means they didn’t even speciate (though potentially successful gestation was rarer).
Why am I writing like an alien nerd observing humans?
There were rumors of a human/chimp hybrid decades ago:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee
Despite the existence of Oliver, it still seems unproven:
Decades you say😶😶
The Nazis & the Japanese experimented with this as well. AFAIK neither faction ever achieved anything resembling success. Fertilization occurs, but then immediately stops as there’s no compatibility, and the cells die.
Genetic testing basically puts a large amount of doubt on it though. More likely it wasn’t a hybrid than was.
There used to be Neanderthals (homo sapiens neanderthalensis) and a few others, we basically interbred them out of existence.
“Interbred them out of existence” is sort of a bleak way of looking at it. For a lot of people, they’re our ancestors. They’re a part of human history and heritage.
bleak way of looking at it
in spartan voice THIS… IS… LEMMYYYYY!!
This is the worst thing I’ve read online this month, including the person who said “perchance” to me in a DM
While we did fuck them a lot, knowing us, I don’t think that’s what caused their extinction.
It’s not really called “extinction” from more modern understanding I guess, more like assimilated over a long period of time and from species contact and living with each other.
Not so sure, except for a last few holdouts in Spain about 40k years ago, who were probably whipped out by natural catastrophe along with regular humans in that area.
I think we kept diluting their gene pool by having sex with them and out breeding them.
What do you mean? We are still around.
With everything you know about humans and our history of causing mass extinction everywhere we settle, of racial violence and irrational fear of anything that is a little bit different, you really don’t think there were any other contributing causes to the mysterious extinction of EVERY SINGLE NON-HUMAN HOMINID ON THE PLANET?
For most people, except sub Saharan Africans, we are also talking about our ancestors when talking about neanderthals. Most of those bones we see on museums are probably the great x grandfathers of many people walking past.
Obviously we have no idea what happened over huge parts of deep human pasts, Neanderthals were a sparse population to begin with, and absorbing their people into the rest of humanity just by fucking is certainly a solution
Your mom!
*sorry, 80s nostalgia hit hard for a second there.
At least wait till I ask a question about a cow or something
Homo sapiens are the last remaining species of hominina. Our closest remaining relatives, the Pan (chimpanzees and bonobos) diverged at least 6.5 million years ago. Though there is some evidence early hominina may have interbred with pan after the divergence as recently as 4 mya.
This is more recent than dogs and foxes by a long way, and about the same as donkeys and horses. That, plus chromosomal analysis and some other research suggests it could be possible for a human and chimp or bonobo to interbreed, though likely not create fertile offspring. However, there has never been a confirmed case of this occurring, despite multiple claims.
Edit: useful articles:
Excellent answer!
So after reading the wiki, I believe the most likely successful attempt will be to mate a human with downe syndrome, with a chimpanzee. Let’s get on this. I wanna see some atrocities of nature.
Umm, I don’t think that’s how it works.
The wiki says it’s hard with chimps because we have one less chromosome than chimps. Down syndrome: “all my homes got extra chromies”. They have an extra chromosome. Ergo: down syndrome + chimp = hybrid chimpmanzee.
Yeah, I don’t think that’s how chromosomes work
Thats how down syndrome works. Look it up yourself, smart guy. People with down syndrome have 47 chromosomes instead of 46. Chimps have 48, so down syndrome people are one closer, by mutation. That means just one more mutation and we’re all set.
Now start work on making a monkeyboy.
Ah yes. And the man monkey in the middle! I bet that’s what Bigfoot is.
Are you really this fucking thick? There’s more to genetic compatibility than chromosome count. Otherwise we’d be seeing human–Reeves’s muntjac hybrids. Or chimp-gorilla.
Are you seriously this fucking thick? You think I’ve been serious? Lol
An odd pair of chromosomes makes it harder than being off by a pair. Mules are unbreedable due to their odd number of chromosomes.
We have successfully bred with species further apart, including an alpaca and a llama.
So yes all the science points to it being possible with humans, but ethically we can’t possibly do that.
And it is not one more mutation to add an extra chromosome. It’s a loooot more.
Pretty sure that we can’t breed with chimps and generate a fertile offspring due the mismatch on the number of chromosomes.
Yeah fertile offspring is almost entirely off the table here from what I can see.
For the sake of completeness:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans
Welp, now I am curious. There are like 10 billion of us, this can’t not happen.
Because of that one caveman, we are all shamed forever.
We’re talking way earlier than cavemen. The last interbreeding between our ancestors and chimps’ ancestors happened (using the most recent estimate I could find) a million years before the least recent evidence of the use of any stone tools. This is not a human that would be recognisable at all as a human.
uh…
Not anymore. We assimilated the neanderthals a long time ago.
Other close relative species don’t exist anymore.
We all fo…breeded with them to our kind
Breed with, out-competed, killed… All options on the table, the important thing is to get busy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee
There were multiple attempts to cross humans and chimpanzees, all of which failed. However, through gene editing, human-chimpanzee and human-pig chimeras were created.
These are just normal animals, but their inner organs are made to be compatible for human organ donation.
would like to know more
You’re short a comma. It’s the American Ghost Comma right after ‘humans’.
Remember that Rogers Telecom paid out a million bucks because it couldn’t write a clear sentence.
Him: “Which animals can I fuck?”
You: “This reminds me of canadian contract law. Also I can use this as an opportunity for language prescriptivism.”
Actually the question was, “which animalbcan I breed with?”. I think it’s important not to misrepresent the facts.
As for rogers, they didn’t have to pay Alliant because the court changed its mind after reading the french version of the contract. In the french version, it is clear the english contract means the plainly obvious interpretation, not the lawyery silent american comma bullshit!
The deal was a five year term, that auto renews for five years unless you cancel it a year in advance.
Alliant wanted to cancel the contract inside the first five year term, the gall of these lawyers!
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180723-the-commas-that-cost-companies-millions
hahaha
reminds me of 8chan
Is 8chan still a thing? Honestly I like the concept of image boards and thought it was cool of 8chan to allow you to make your own boards. But of course image boards attract the worst
Asking for a friend?
No, not since Neanderthals, Denisovians and friends went extinct.
Even Neanderthals are a bit of a partial case, since the hybrid males were mostly sterile. We know this from the pattern Neanderthal genes appear in modern DNA.
Where can one read more on the second paragraph?
Uhh, I think there was a Nature article about it. Per the Wikipedia, basically there’s just stretches of the X chromosome that are deserts of Neanderthal DNA, because when a Neanderthal allele is present and there isn’t a second copy, it’s a reproductive dead end and selected out.
Oh, here.
For a specific example, Ozzy Osbourne has some Neanderthal DNA which might possibly explain why he’s still alive lol
Most people of non-African origin (a fact that helped pinpoint where the mixing happened and when) have 1-3% or so, the amount varying by person and region.
I think it’s up to 10% from what I remember watching in some documentaries.
Conventional prehistory says there used to be animals we could interbreed with, but that we in fact bred with them so much that the hybrids replaced the creatures made to get said hybrid.
These replaced peoples were, of course, designated members of the homo genus, which Homo Sapiens (the scientific name for humans) gets its name from, and they include things such as (using their common names, not their scientific names) Neanderthals (geographically found in Southern Europe), Denisovans (found mostly to the West, towards Asia), and Hobbits (yes, hobbits, they were found in the Pacific). Nothing of note happened in America.
The Neanderthals and the Denisovans are of particular note, as their territories overlapped commonly, and there are cave findings that show they themselves interbred with each other and produced perfectly functioning offspring. I can only hope when they were engaging in the act, they asked to mingle and ended it with “no homo”.
There are, however, reports that, at the same time in prehistory, we did try to breed with other animals that haven’t been replaced, typically the great apes, as evidenced by lice samples found in both us and them, but that this, quite expectedly, didn’t lead to any hybrid outcomes.
