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Summary
Donald Trump plans to discuss potentially ending childhood vaccination programs with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee for Health and Human Services.
Trump expressed openness to revisiting vaccine policies, citing concerns about autism rates, despite scientific consensus debunking links between vaccines and autism.
Critics warn reducing vaccinations could lead to outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles.
Kennedy, known for questioning vaccine safety, would oversee the CDC if confirmed.
Public health experts remain concerned about the implications.
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I think we are forgetting the rate at which Trump chews through allies. Kennedy is simply another useful idiot. He was useful to have his idiot base vote for the turd. They will (maybe) look at the numbers, pharma will say that stocks will go down, and Kennedy will be substituted by another useful idiot. Wash, rinse, repeat.
That’s the only thing I can hope, is that the pharmaceutical and insurance industries will tell him to bury rfkj in a hole in the desert
I too have been hoping for his usual fascist, use-then-discard tendencies to kick in.
“trump to discuss bringing back ever terrible disease we got rid of or mitigated in the 1900s with RFK Jr.”
We’re gonna party like it’s 1899
Covid was just a warmup
Congrats. You reap what you sow
Anybody with half a brain can see the collapse of the U.S. coming from a mile away based on what’s happening right now. Our institutions are at an all-time low in trust, all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.
We elected TFG… twice. Humanity is doomed
TFG
That Fucking Goon?
“The Former Guy”, refers to Trump.
What’s this “we?” I take zero responsibility for the election of that idiot. I tried as hard as I could to get everyone I know to not vote for him.
Eh. It’s “we” whether you like it or not, unfortunately.
Do we really differentiate between the good and bad Germans in Nazi Germany? Not really. History paints with broad strokes. In the future we’re all going to look like the bad guys, whether we fought back or not. It’s a shameful time to be an American.
What? There are quite a few Germans who rebelled against against the Nazis and are recognized for it.
And people think that most Germans rebelled? You are missing the point.
Nobody said “most Germans”. They said “all”, which is not only untrue, it’s a malignment of those who did resist and serves to discourage future resistance, which is entirely unhelpful. If that’s truely where the US is headed, the last thing people need to hear is, “Everyone will think you’re a piece of shit no matter what you do.”
Thinking in absolutes is a childish thing to begin with, it has nothing to do with maligning the people who resisted.
Of course there will be varying accounts for those involved, but as a whole, Americans shoulder the responsibility of their country just the same as Germans shouldered theirs. I wouldnt hold it against someone who felt involved or responsible, and deciding at some point to rebel.
But that doesnt mean they still weren’t part of something awful for some period of time. Just like Americans are part of something awful right now, and for quite a long time.
And I swear you guys are going to take us down with you (as a Canadian). The Trump “jokes” about annexing Canada are really starting to get to me.
So much for being good trading partners and friendly neighbours I guess
Edit: this isn’t really directed at you in particular, it’s just that as Canadians we didn’t even get a say in this but somehow you voted overwhelmingly for him again and now he’s threatening to invade us before he even takes office. I’m fucking tired man (and a little drunk)
We did not vote overwhelmingly for him. He barely won.
Fair, but he did win the popular vote which I really wasn’t expecting. I realise very little US Lemmy users are happy about it either, but the Canada rhetoric Trump is spouting is still freaking me out.
he did win the popular vote
Frankly I also don’t believe that for half a second either. We had over a full year’s worth of “I am going to cheat in this election.” ‘He’s going to cheat and we’re gonna help him!’ “Mike Johnson and I, we have a nice secret surprise, it’s a secret, can’t tell you anything, but it’s going to guarantee I win the election.” ‘Hi, my name is Mike Johnson and I intend to help Trump cheat the election.’ “If Kamala wins the election is rigged no matter what happens. We’ve rigged it in our favor so obviously if we lose the Democrats have rigged the election.”
And then, lo and behold, he wins, by an ass-hair percentage of a degree in exactly the states he needed to in order to take the presidency.
Unless I’m the one counting those ballots by hand I don’t believe a fucking word of it. All trust in all branches of government has evaporated. But what can we do now.
Tell me about it. I can feel the rumblings of something awful coming for Canada. All because if this bullshit down south. Our rights are being threatened because of reactionary politics. Half the people I work with can’t seperate Canadian politics from American. They think it’s all the same.
Drives me up the wall.
i swear if he really tries to annex us i would be defending our borders. But do you know what bothers me more? the Canadians who would defect and help the US annex us.
all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.
I mean yeah. But also because Americans are profoundly stupid. No excuses. As a whole, we’re stupid as fuck.
Politicians do not benefit from an educated populace.
Our schools have been under attack by the usual shitheads ever since we won to get them integrated.
Smart comfortable people don’t obey. Uneducated, poor people with two jobs and three kids don’t have any energy left over to crack a book and be disruptive.
So you’re saying we should blame the rich and oligarchs. Agreed.
Decades of republicans cutting education and lying will do that.
You mean that?
I wonder how the Turtle will vote, he had polio when he was a kid…
Not enough polio.
I am the Walrus, but who is the Turtle?
Can he remember that far back?
Well he does identify as an Elephant, so I guess we’ll find out
The US is in the fast lane on the super highway to full stupid.
A wise man once said - never go full retard.
That’d be fine if they weren’t dragging the rest of the world along with them.
Okay, idiot republicunts. You happy now? Not only are eggs going to be MORE expensive because of bullshit tariffs, but your kids are going to die from measles and shit. Way to go, cunts.
Not their kids, they can afford the vaccines at list price. It’s the poors who will die, as Supply Side Jesus intended.
How does that help them? It’s a vaccine. If just you have yours, it doesn’t work very well. It still helps some and objectively improves things so it’s still a good idea, but it’s not like having it when everybody does their job.
You are thinking like someone who gives a damn about other humans. Yes, everyone benefits when everyone who is able to gets the shot and we can keep the overall spread down.
But what if you are the type of person who thinks that everything is a zero-sum game, and you’re not really a winner unless you have more than the other guy? What advantage is there to you, personally, if everyone benefits? It’s much better if you get the benefits, and people you hate do not.
Who exactly do you think voted for Trump? lmao
Doesn’t matter if enough people aren’t vaxed for herd immunity
All those hillbilly fuckbrains who voted for trump? All those suburban moms who voted for a rapist? Nah bruv, those people can’t afford a $1200 vaccine or whatever the fuck. The traitor oligarchs can, sure. Perhaps they will meet their fate via a different route, nahmean?
I feel bad saying this, but part of me wonders if this is what they need. A real wake up call, a real understanding a real view of how bad a country can get if you throwaway the guardrails in place that was there to keep the very government in check and allow them to outright eat the poor to supplement the rich.
I just hope it doesn’t destroy the country before they realise what’s taken from them.
I have a deep yearning for this to happen. But logically I find it far more likely that they’ll just blame anything going wrong on Biden and Obama initiatives.
With the Supreme Court in play, They might just start locking up people for criticizing the government. It’ll be fake news soup to nuts
a real understanding a real view of how bad a country can get
How many people died from Covid from refusing to wear masks and refusing to get vaxed during Trump? Then Trump claimed credit for getting the vaccine made.
Yet here we are.
These are not people who will learn from experience. They’ll just look for more scapegoats.
They won’t know about it until it personally affects them, then they’ll play the victim card.
As is tradition!
No, then it will simply be democrats fault, or immigrants
To be fair, the price of eggs will likely be more affected by bird flu which will spread uncontrollably, since Trump will abolish all common sense regulations.
As long as the liberals kids die too they’re fine with it.
Not to worry, they will probably come up with a near total ban on abortions and birth control, and then there’ll be that many more children, so that enough of them can survive to become wage slaves for the billionaire class.
Thank you USA if you do this, it will most likely show our crazies here in Europe why exactly it is we do it.
Of course I feel sorry for the children that will get needlessly sick.
We may see Darwin awards on a national scale for the first time in history.First time in history? Did we forget about the Herman Cain awards already?
Ubekibekibekibekibekistanstan
You are right, it already happened during Covid. I made an edit.
What.the.fuck. why .
Bro. You know why. Trump is a puppet and Putin’s pulling the strings.
Behind the bastards has a great episode on RFK that will probably help you to understand why
Chaos.
RFK is insane. Trump hates the poor
You also have to recognize that Trump is proudly stupid and yearns to be loved. If he thinks one more person will like him for getting rid of vaccines, he’ll do it.
Make America Sick Again. But not, like siiick, dude!
This has such “Doctor Strangelove” vibes, although the idiocy on display in that movie was meant to be satirical and absurd, yet here we are
Oh? Sounds like someone wants my precious bodily fluids. You. Cant. Have them!
That’s why I only drink grain alcohol and rainwater.
Kill the department of education and force religious curriculum. This whitewashing will hide the history of slavery and make indentured servitude a normal way of life. If you tell them Jesus said it, they will believe it because they can’t read or just don’t care to take the time and do it. Religion is about blind faith in something that may or may not exist. It is a form of control over those with little to lose.
Ban vaccines so people are sick and weak. Make all other health care unaffordable. Make them starve by inflating prices. Make their bodies weak to avoid physical conflict. They can’t hurt you when they are barely able move or care for themselves.
End sex education and ban abortion. People are going to get sick and die constantly. You will have a population falloff preventing any increase to your wealth and power if you don’t force them to have kids faster to fill the labor pool.
Keep their wages low so you can buy out their housing. Force them to be reliant on you to put a roof over their heads. Make them work multiple jobs at little pay just to afford this rental housing. Having no home is a real killer of hope.
Pit them against each other. Crime is up, must be the illegal immigrants! They are taking all your jobs! That black guy down the street is going to steal you stuff and your women. That Jew works at the bank and is the reason you can’t get a raise or a loan. Your neighbor is your enemy and They will take everything you have if don’t have a gun to protect yourself.
I’m could keep going down the rabbit hole, but why bother. These assholes want us back in 1800’s where the rich control and own everything.
Don’t let them fool you. The rich control both parties in this country. It’s just that one side doesn’t give a fuck about being open about what they are doing or public perception.
I am not condoning violence, but this is where we are going to end up shortly if the rich stay comfortable. Freedom isn’t free, and we are almost out of fight due to apathy. Average people care more about what some ass clown doing in their social feeds than seeing what is about to slap them right in the face.
Tree of Liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
- Thomas Jefferson
He wanted to kill patriots?
No, what he meant is that tyrants die when toppled in revolutions and patriots die in the process toppling tyrants. Thus for liberty to thrive both are sacrificed.
It’s not the vaccines that cause autism, you nincompoopidiots, it’s the violent videogames, obviously!
🤪
Well at least all the historians will get to see what the collapse of the Roman Empire was like in realtime.
Was cool while it lasted.
I have to wonder how many unvaxxed kids are out there right now where their parents have lied and said the kids are vaxxed. I wouldn’t put it past some unscrupulous doctors (and savvy parents) to forge vax docs where required.
If true, I would imagine what Trump and team are doing is only going to embolden unvaxxers to be more open and honest, rather than hiding it away.
Regardless, it sucks that kids are being used as pawns in their nutjob parent’s conspiracy theories. They don’t deserve it (the kids).
Ah yes, the ol’ classic vaccination / autism correlation. It makes perfect sense, I mean I’m autistic and then I got vaccinated. Definitely a connection here, let’s ban the 'tism and solve all the problems.
While the link between pollution and autism is very clear, but people still vote for drill baby drill.
