I like these things but would prefer them as a text post to politcal community or such so its searchable and because I tend to block meme communities. Basically im saying this is way to good to be a meme.
I tend to block meme communities
Which is why you are discussing here in the political meme community, right? Well, thanks for letting us know :D
Even cheated on their kids!
I don’t know what you mean by this and I may be better off not knowing
The wording is a bit vague and it could be interpreted as cheating on the wives and the kids.
In Trumps case, we know from him saying it repeatedly that he wants to fuck his own daughter. I wouldn’t bet money that he hasn’t already.
cheating, rape, and violence ARE conservative family values, as long as it’s the men doing any of those things
Don’t forget incest. There’s a reason the south has billboards saying “she’s your daughter, not your date”. If the problem is so bad that people are paying to run anti-incest campaigns, there’s a real issue with the people living there.
ready for some creepy AF handmaid’s twilight tale zone dystopia shit?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/purity-ball-photos_n_5255904
edit: stumbledupon this too…https://abcnews.go.com/US/speaker-mike-johnson-daughter-profiled-attending-purity-ball/story?id=105785626
no, i don’t see that there’s any such similar thing for boys
women doing the same would be progressive.
Lemmy is an echo chamber but I’ll say if for those rare republicans in the back:
If a prominent democrat has skeletons like this in their closet, they deserve the same scrutiny / disrepute as any republican.
Party means nothing
Sing that song to Alan Franken. Then sing it again to Anthony Weiner.
Yeah, that’s why the democrats called for the immediate resignation of weiner, Adams, menenedez, and cuomo. Republicans circle wagons every time one of their own is credibly accused. Even bringing it up in the same context is disingenuous.
“bOtH sIDEs aRe BaD!”
Seriously one side is objectively worse.
Not what I said at all. Try again.
This is about the common republican whataboutism, and clarifying that no political party is above scrutiny.
Buddy, if it sounds like a duck and waddles for bread, I’m calling it a duck.
Well, it didn’t sound like a duck. You just have problems comprehending what you read.
I read his comment as also being addressed to the Republicans in the back: a concurrence, not a rebuttal.
So many people online take replies are contradictions when they’re meant to be support. It’s frustrating.
Let’s not get this twisted, there are likely zero Republicans on lemmy, and if there are, they can only be counted on one hand.
Heh there are conservative comms, they are bizarre.
One side isnt objectively worse
They are only worse for the majority of humans and other species that live on Earth
People downvoting you clearly aren’t reading past the first line…
How is that not objectively worse?
That’s the joke TM
Its not objectively worse to black holes
I’m pretty sure bubonic plague isn’t noticing, either.
Your opinion was already addressed by “lemmy is an echo chamber”.
All you young whippersnappers should read up on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Hart
Rules for thee. But, not for me.
I feel like the whole ‘Family Values’ thing hasn’t been a talking point from the republicans in a long time. Have any of these 3 actually lectured about family values?
I can so I should, and if I did then it was right.
The Nationalist Christian logic … if I did bad things and God didn’t punish me, then I was allowed by God to do these things and get away with it.
These are the reasons why I don’t like Nationalist Christians and I don’t believe in God … any God that would allow this stupidity is in a universe I don’t want to take part in. I would rather burn in hell that join some fanciful heaven filled with psychopaths, sociopaths and narcissists.
Also I always liked the short form of calling them “Nat-Cs” … Nationalist Christians
I wonder how Elon’s “Kung Fu lessons” with Ghislaine Maxwell panned out.
I wonder if he sparred against 12 year old girls.
It’s a bit hard to grasp but most practice ‘ social’ Christianity. The people discriminated against as ‘sinners’ are just people they make them uncomfortable and they don’t want around.
So the poor, homeless ,trans, gay are vilified because they. Really really don’t want them to show up in their church. It would make them uncomfortable.
On the same side there is 0% backlash against the guy who drinks to excess specifically looking to hook up with as many hot women as possible on Friday or Saturday nights. As long as he is from the in group it’s fine to them and will be forgiven.
There is 0 remorse, thought or strain over this. You’re judging them by rules they don’t consider important.
Exactly. The alcoholic cheater who sometimes hits his wife is a fun guy to them, a good Christian who’s trying his best. But a trans woman who spends Friday night driving around to pick up food for food not bombs needs to repent and live as Jesus said.
I’m not pretending Christianity is amazing, I’m an apostate for a reason, but I’ll say this: I’m still a better Christian than a large portion of Christians I know despite the apostacy and the paganism.
Well, being trans means you believe god made a mistake when creating your body! An opinion held by many Christians wearing corrective eyeware.
I don’t even think it’s like that. If the trans person happened to be a church member before they may be somewhat comfortable with them thus, one of the good ones. If the wife was liked in the church the guy would be out.
The whole notion of good and bad is comfort level. That is why anyone who questions their faith is rejected as an other. They viscerally dislike being uncomfortable and externalize it as hate so they don’t need to feel bad.
That’s fair. One formative experience i had was seeing my childhood church have many parishioners reject our priest. He was pretty radical for a catholic priest having gone on record asking his bishop to perform two separate lesbian weddings (his sister and neice), when I came out of the closet he offered to talk to my ex father about how there’s a commandment about loving family but none about gender, and he routinely called for his parishioners to think and actually strive to be better people. They did not like that. They also really didn’t like when he kept telling the teenagers that he’d rather we think about our beliefs and convert away than to just stay catholic because we were raised that way.
I’ve seen US Catholics reject one the popes teaching because he went against Trump on a certain subject. If the US goes on like this I could see a Trump church.
On one hand I’ve seen catholics reject the poor on a lot of topics, really basically all of them. But yeah the American Civil religion seems to be developing a strong cult of Trump. What concerns me is the bishops joining that cult.
It’s also weird because I’m so used to American fascists being super fucking protestant, and these ones kinda still are, they’re just like the bastard children of Calvinism and Franco era Spanish catholicism.
The protestant denominations in the populist movements really fundamentally hate Catholics and consider them unsaved pagans. That group is being used and is going to be cut out soon enough.
This isn’t even something people are recently aware of. There’s this old gospel song from the 1920s that Tom Jones does an amazing cover of, called Run On. I keep thinking about these lyrics every time one of these scandals comes up. Of course, the people in the song will supposedly get their comeuppance, but it’s a gospel song, so that’s to be expected:
Some people go to church just to signify
Or try to make a date with the neighbor’s wife
But brother, let me tell you sure as you’re born
You better leave that woman aloneOne of these days, you mark my words
You’ll think your brother is gone to work
You sneak up and knock on his door
Look out, brother, you’ll knock no more(I’m an atheist, but it’s Tom Fucking Jones.)
Forgot the name and creator of the theory but it’s basically in/out-group theory. Originally thought up to explain youth criminality in particular.
On another note, if you are interested run a check-list on the criteria that lead to mass criminality as in genocide and the like for Russia/China and the USA in particular. It’s appalling how close they are in that regard. If we ever get a 3rd world war the war crimes will be uncountable
"If we ever get a 3rd world war the war " There is a world war going on right now.
What is the criteria for “credibly accused”? Accused is easy enough. One simply must make an accusation against you. But what criteria is used to elevate that credible?
witnesses, accusations, court trials, investigations by law, settlements and outright admission.
Some of them have more of one type than the other but most of the people mentioned in this political context are not unlucky people who only have one or two incidents.
That does not mean the other people are saints. But most seem to at least not glorify in it, and many are content to exploit and rob the working class without such public incidents.
Not that I care about or even like these guys, but just playing devils advocate (mostly because very few people here do) but witnesses, accusations, court trials, and investigations by law is just due process. Also, with an outright admission, we’ve gone past the point of a mere accusation (credible or otherwise). I suppose a settlement is the only one I would attach to credible. Most people aren’t going to pay up unless they’re guilty.
you dont have a trump bible? /s
John Edwards’ career-ending scandal is seeming pretty damn quaint these days
Honestly, what even is a political scandal anymore? The goal post has been moved so far, I’m not sure it’s even still in the same zip code.
Howard Dean would have been president, but he cheered weird that one time, so didn’t get the nomination.
Spoiler: it’s not
It’s when your party abandons you over it. Only democrats have them anymore, with the sole exception being when a republican goes against trump
Musk actually got two of the three mothers of his children to pretend it was all good and a big misunderstanding on their part.
His ex-wife still thinks he’s an asshole though.
I have never taken any moral criticism from the right seriously. They are corrupt immoral hypocritical assholes.
That said, I will call out any democrat doing unethical shit because I don’t give a shit about party or celebrities. If you are a piece of shit, I don’t care about the letter next to your name.
And if you have an R next to your name, I give zero shits about any of your opinions you morally bankrupt piece of crap.
Do what I say, not what I do
