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      He probably didn’t. He was polling very well. Very well. Better than his last two elections for a long time. People pretended he couldn’t win and I admittedly didn’t think they’d do that since that’s exactly what happened in 2016.

      Simply assuming the election was stolen will be a mistake because that mindset will help Republicans win their next election. The voters wanted an irreparably changed supreme court and Trump functionally immune from prosecution and that’s what the voters got.

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        I reformatted my post for clarity if that helps. I have been trying to gather reputable sources and more info as story unfolds and I think I let it get too messy.

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        Um, or not realizing the danger we are literally in right now will be a mistake.

        Think of what Trump has literally said:

        • He wants a purge night, and a purge for “woke” military members (this is literally a military take over by Russia)
        • He wants to take away freedom of speech for leftists
        • He wants to end birthright citizenship
        • You will never vote again after this election

        There won’t be a next election. He is a Russian asset meant to take all of our money and kill us. The voters didn’t decide anything, Russia did. To kill us.

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      Summary of what may have happened: Trump is a Russian asset working for Putin (see American Kompromat by journalist Craig Unger or Active Measures documentary with Hillary Clinton). Trump stole election software in 2020 (sources below).

      https://youtu.be/5umiMThrlsA?si=mwgr4U2c2jleJEBj

      Starlink, Elon’s satellite company was installed in voting machines across the country and may have interfered with vote tabulation. In September, Politco had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database. Also, there were malicious fake texts and fake DNC organizations likely fishing voter info connected to Elon who is connected to Russia. Elon and Trump are working together. Elon had results of election on an app 4 hours before official counts had it.

      They will release more info admitting their fraud because they are a Russian asset trying to start a civil war here. This is speculation but he has refused to write an ethics statement for transition of power saying he will transition peacefully. JD Vance has also told the EU that unless they allow X unfettered access to the EU (to spread propaganda), they will withdraw the US from NATO- which helpes Russia and will prompt wars or takeover either way and weakens Germany, who is entering an election since their government couldn’t agree on Ukraine budget.

      Also speculation, but please do your own citizen journalism, are reports of widespread ballot rejection, especially for signatures. There are articles claiming already that it is because GenZ does not know cursive - except the signature simply must match your driver’s license. It’s not a cursive writing test. Avocado toast but with gen z voting fraud. We do not yet have the ballot rejection rates but typically they are around 1% to 1.5%.

      https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-voters-struggle-signatures-cast-mail-ballot-problems-2024-11

      Crypto is how right wing conservatism got funded here. It’s why it took off- it was basically UBI for those men, funded by foreign intelligence for this purpose along with other uses for crypto like dark money, drugs, trafficking, etc. The least informed people we knew were investing in crypto when it was starting, mining bitcoins, couldn’t tell you what a stock is yet making bank in crypto trading. Crypto trading, especially memecoins, appears to be an obvious scam to most because it’s the stock market without ownership. So why were these 4chan pedophiles and nazis doing so well? Because it was just meant to give them money the whole time. And crypto is great for transferring money internationally from shady organizations to shady people.

      The formula is using memecoins with far right catchphrases to give money to far right extremist groups to fund them. Once the government is taken over, they can force their memecoin as the national currency and then rug pull, which is also what Musk is likely going to do to Tesla at the same time. The entire point is to bankrupt America for Putin and his cartoon villain cohorts.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/11/10/its-unsustainable-tesla-ceo-elon-musk-issues-us-serious-bankruptcy-warning-amid-huge-bitcoin-and-dogecoin-price-surge/

      “Musk’s fear over the U.S.'s spiraling $35 trillion debt pile comes as the bitcoin price has surged—outpaced by the price of the meme-based bitcoin rival dogecoin that’s boomed thanks to Musk’s backing of the Department Of Government Efficiency, nicknamed Doge.”

      He doesn’t have fear about the debt that Trump added on. He’s trying to attack us financially and will use this to justify collapsing Tesla stock.

      If you’re in Germany, take note. They are coming for you next, your election is soon.

      News Links

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-elon-musk-x-twitter-donald-trump-b2614525.html

      https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10/pro-trump-dark-money-network-tied-to-elon-musk-behind-fake-pro-harris-campaign-scheme/

      https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/trump-infiltrate-voting-machines-georgia-2020.html

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-georgias-effort-to-secure-voting-machines-as-experts-raise-concerns

      https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1gnxqmw/elon_musks_company_starlink_praised_by_tulare/

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1112436

      https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/us-election-software-national-security-threats-00176615

      Personal Testimony from the Colluders

      https://grabien.com/story.php?id=499986

      Joe Rogan says Elon had data for election results on his phone 4 hours before official counts

      https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-airs-melania-trumps-nudes-primetime-1982683

      " [Melania, naked] lying on a blue carpet with the U.S. seal, as though the editors of lthe men’s magazine knew something in advance about the future of their model."

      They are just confirming she’s their asset.

      youtube.com/live/HBPNfAUPz08?si=PZQa_D_wbN9VoA6y

      In the first minute:

      “Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico.”

      “Too Big to Rig”

      “If you can watch your vote counter, if we can bring God down from heaven (he’s referencing Starlink), we can win this, win California, win a lot of states.”

      https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/if-trump-loses-im-fcked-elon-musk-in-interview-with-tucker-carlson/articleshow/114024254.cms

      “If [Trump] loses, I’m f*cked… How long do you think my prison sentence is going to be?”

      Why does Elon think he would go to prison though? For what crime?

      youtu.be/Zmc0EN8XAY8?si=5u_mJNte37r4JmUb

      Trump:“Our little secret is having a big impact”

      If Trump was so sure the election was rigged and they were going to turnover every state including California, then why hasn’t he asked for a recount in all the states with representatives that didn’t get elected that he thought would be? Shouldn’t he be suing for recounts? He did it last time. Why doesn’t he want an investigation this time?

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        One piece of this is pretty easily debunked:

        “Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico.”

        If that were true, why didn’t they? 🤔

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico

        Not only did Trump lose, he wasn’t even close.

        Fewer people turned up for Harris, likely due to the lower emphasis on vote by mail this year compared to 2020, but he still lost.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico

        As for the whole “Starlink hacked the machines!” that’s as crazy a claim as the Hugo Chavez claims from 2020.

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/11/left-wing-conspiracy-theorists-elon-musk-satellites/

        "There is no evidence to support the claims spreading on social media. US voting machines are typically disconnected from the internet in order to prevent interference.

        Last week Jen Easterly, director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, said there was “no evidence of any malicious activity that had a material impact on the security or integrity of our election infrastructure”.

        Allegations that there are millions of “missing” votes have been spread by both Democrats unhappy about Trump’s victory and Republicans who claimed the theories vindicate their concerns about the 2020 result.

        The discrepancy in the number of votes cast is mostly down to slow vote counting in California, which as of Monday had only processed around 74pc of ballots despite being called for Kamala Harris days ago."

        I’m not going through the rest of the claims as it’s obviously just so much tinfoil hattery.

        Youtube is not a source, anyone can go on Youtube and say anything.

        Ditto Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc. etc.

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            And still more useful than your sources.

            Trump did not win New Mexico despite your claim that they could flip it by cheating, that’s not up for debate.

            Voting machihes are NOT connected to the Internet, starlink or otherwise. Again, not up for debate.

            Take your tin-foil hat somewhere else.

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              Bruh the voting machines indeed are connected to the internet. I have given you multiple official sources for this.

              It’s not a tinfoil hat if it’s real.

              Wow, I can’t believe how much people like you support fascism with your deliberate ignorance.

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                I’m sorry, a) your sources aren’t official and b) it’s factually NOT TRUE.

                You are now banned for repeated misinformation.

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        I’m pretty excited to see the left wing numerologists emerge from the woodwork. Don’t forget to buy those supplements.

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          So what exactly is philosophically unsound about what I said?

          We can philosophically find the inconsistencies in numerology to debunk it as a science or predictive method. So what am I saying that is illogical?

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            I think the illogical part is how you cited sources that don’t say what you claim they are saying.

            This is called “disinformation” folks

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              Which article specifically is wrong?

              YouTube is indeed a source as people have official YouTube channels. I’m linking a video of someone saying something - that’s a source. People who are young think sources are only weblinks because they’ve never written a bibliography without links in it at all. That used to be the norm.