Dudes getting rid of the department of education so garbage human beings can isolate their children in homeschooling. More than protests are required. Real tangible steps needed to be taken prior to the election to enshrine basic rights and quality of standard for the US citizens. Democrats refused because everyone knows they have 1 or 2 senators or congressional rep that would make sure their minor majority was canceled out. This was intentional by democrat leadership(pelosi). The US voters refused to remove both democrats and republicans end masse because both of them wanted their party to have the power. Welcome to the Divided States of america. Have you had your joy today?
En masse*
americans are awful at protesting. they show up, cant figure out where to park, have no organizations, have lame chants (e.g. hey hey, ho ho, donald trump has go to go), present the same meaningless meme protest posters, leave tons of trash behind, and it last a few hours. Nothing is sustained for multiple days or weeks, and the solidarity is with people who already were with you.
They should ship in French people. They are first class protestors.
So accurate. Attention span issues.
H A S T O G O
Donald Trump has got to go!
Minority of americans are against Trump. I’ve lost all hope for average americans intelligence.
They can come out to protest but not to vote?
Out of 147 million total voters, 3 million more voted for Trump. Do not shame the voters, we did our part.
yall had your chance. fucked around and found out.
I still support the protests but, jesus christ, this fucking mess is only just beginning.
Enemies of democracy.
The protesters?
Remember if you’re going to any protests. Don’t bring your phone and wear a mask. Use a map if you’re not familiar with the area, write any important numbers you might need to call from a cell on your arm. Let friends know where you’re going and don’t go alone if you can.
Why no phone? Also is it still that bad with CoVid, that even outside a mask is necessary?
It’s about anonymity. You can be tracked through your phone, and of course, by your face.
I guess I’m spoiled by my (yet working) european liberal democracy. No idea it got that bad that you need to worry about such things…
If things are bad enough to be worth a protest then it’s probably always best to be at least a bit cautious, and your phone is one of the worst possible things you could have on you.
you should always worry about it operationally. even in europe.
Because they are protesting someone who wants to make protesting illegal. Better to protest now without a phone and a mask, so you don’t get shot in the legg when he gets in power in January
I think it’s more to avoid facial recognition
monkey paw curls
The two party system is over
March and rally to protest Trump and the two-party war machine
Mass protests against the two-party system. Perhaps we can get some actual representation next election.
There isn’t going to be another election, not a real one anyway. It’s game over.
For starters, his first speech on 1A basically says he’s prosecuting anyone who dares to enforce the Hatch Act.
And he’ll probably put into effect the insurrection act.
Funny. Assuming there actually is a next time.
Imagine being stupid enough to protest democracy, assist a wannabe dictator become the next US president, and still bitching about a two party system system. Because of ignorance and stupidity there will only be single party going forward in America.
Fascism like the world has never seen.
This shit is so self-defeating, anti-progressive and only inflicts damage on the truly innocent people
But hey principles ami right?
If it’s any consolation, at least Trump can only ever become a short term dictator, because he’s old.
I doubt even the MAGAs would support Vance or any other republican trying to maintain a dictatorship. The entire GOP will crumble in infighting when Trump is gone and probably even beforehand.
This is the kind of clownish thinking that got us in this position in the first place. Stop underestimating the orange idiot.
Or his cadre of evil clowns.
Hey Bud. You okay?
This reads like you’re feeling defeated. It’s okay to have hope that the world can get better, even if it feels like the dark days.
You anthropomorphizing complex socio-polotical effects of a rotting economic system. Just thought you ought to know.
And searches for “can I change my vote” and “what is a tariff” have spiked
Everyone has been warning against Trump (including his own ex staff and lawyers).
Big thanks to the donkeys though who promoted Trump and tried to pretend Kamala is the same.
I doubt there is a single economist that believes in Trump
The new narrative is “I have no culpability whatsoever when it comes to Trump winning just because I kept repeating that no one should vote for Harris. It’s entirely her fault for running a bad campaign.”
They refuse to share blame. I hope they feel just as self-righteous when they’re getting marched into that boxcar.
Please show me a single example of somepne saying that Harris was the same as trump.
Take a stroll through hexbear and .Ml
Get ready because next year they going make protesting illegal, and Trump already signal his willingness to send troops to said protest. I suspect we will have protest and soldiers shooting said protesters. People under estimate how many mega have joined the army.
That’s why I would advise against directly confrontation means of protest. Instead look at things like malicious compliance, boycotts, 4B / birthstrike, anticonsumption, and other acts of non-participation. Labor strikes will probably be common, but those can be rather risky.
Governments know how to deal in violence. Don’t give them a target to aim at.
If making protesting illegal is enough to get you to stop protesting: You’re not really upset enough to have protested in the first place for anything but taking pictures of it for social media points.
And it’s not like protesters haven’t been getting shot or beaten up by police even while it’s legal.
Yep. They knew what would happen because we’ve been telling them for months what would happen. Trump himself has been telling them for months what would happen. But they’re too smart. They always seem to know more than those they disagree with.
And now, because of a single issue that’s happing in a country where most of them couldn’t have located on a map a year ago- we’re now having to deal with the worst possible outcome.
And here’s the kicker-
What’s happening at that place that they could locate on a map a year ago that upset them so much will not be happening for too much longer…
and it won’t be ending in a way they’d have hoped it would.
But just wait… it’ll be everyone else’s fault.
And now, because of a single issue that’s happing in a country where most of them couldn’t have located on a map a year ago- we’re now having to deal with the worst possible outcome.
This is the 21th century, bitch. I went online and talked to people in lebannon.
Now I hate america. And I hate you. Kill yourself, bitch. Your existence is worthless.
I’m sorry…. Did you expect I was going to take anything you say seriously?
Americans are nazi and I hope one day your city gets bombed. Maybe then you wont act so detached toward war crimes. It’s always easy to worry about american women’s right from your peaceful ivory tower. Fuck you.
Yawn…. What else ya got?
I don’t care much about you bitch. You’re just a brainwashed genocider. I hope you gets sent to the middle east lmao
You sure whine like you care. If you really don’t care. Prove it and go find something better to do., like….
Therapy.
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You have the gall to tell me I hide behind sarcasm? You hide behind repeated attempts at trolling with nothing but sad vitriolic hatred.
Take the hint that no one wants you here and go get help.
The sad part is that everything bad he says is apparently “him joking”. Like the Mafia, he knows exactly what he’s doing as well when it comes to coercion. He doesn’t threaten people, he just says it would be a pity if it happened
He stole the election.
He probably didn’t. He was polling very well. Very well. Better than his last two elections for a long time. People pretended he couldn’t win and I admittedly didn’t think they’d do that since that’s exactly what happened in 2016.
Simply assuming the election was stolen will be a mistake because that mindset will help Republicans win their next election. The voters wanted an irreparably changed supreme court and Trump functionally immune from prosecution and that’s what the voters got.
I reformatted my post for clarity if that helps. I have been trying to gather reputable sources and more info as story unfolds and I think I let it get too messy.
Um, or not realizing the danger we are literally in right now will be a mistake.
Think of what Trump has literally said:
- He wants a purge night, and a purge for “woke” military members (this is literally a military take over by Russia)
- He wants to take away freedom of speech for leftists
- He wants to end birthright citizenship
- You will never vote again after this election
There won’t be a next election. He is a Russian asset meant to take all of our money and kill us. The voters didn’t decide anything, Russia did. To kill us.
Summary of what may have happened: Trump is a Russian asset working for Putin (see American Kompromat by journalist Craig Unger or Active Measures documentary with Hillary Clinton). Trump stole election software in 2020 (sources below).
https://youtu.be/5umiMThrlsA?si=mwgr4U2c2jleJEBj
Starlink, Elon’s satellite company was installed in voting machines across the country and may have interfered with vote tabulation. In September, Politco had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database. Also, there were malicious fake texts and fake DNC organizations likely fishing voter info connected to Elon who is connected to Russia. Elon and Trump are working together. Elon had results of election on an app 4 hours before official counts had it.
They will release more info admitting their fraud because they are a Russian asset trying to start a civil war here. This is speculation but he has refused to write an ethics statement for transition of power saying he will transition peacefully. JD Vance has also told the EU that unless they allow X unfettered access to the EU (to spread propaganda), they will withdraw the US from NATO- which helpes Russia and will prompt wars or takeover either way and weakens Germany, who is entering an election since their government couldn’t agree on Ukraine budget.
Also speculation, but please do your own citizen journalism, are reports of widespread ballot rejection, especially for signatures. There are articles claiming already that it is because GenZ does not know cursive - except the signature simply must match your driver’s license. It’s not a cursive writing test. Avocado toast but with gen z voting fraud. We do not yet have the ballot rejection rates but typically they are around 1% to 1.5%.
https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-voters-struggle-signatures-cast-mail-ballot-problems-2024-11
Crypto is how right wing conservatism got funded here. It’s why it took off- it was basically UBI for those men, funded by foreign intelligence for this purpose along with other uses for crypto like dark money, drugs, trafficking, etc. The least informed people we knew were investing in crypto when it was starting, mining bitcoins, couldn’t tell you what a stock is yet making bank in crypto trading. Crypto trading, especially memecoins, appears to be an obvious scam to most because it’s the stock market without ownership. So why were these 4chan pedophiles and nazis doing so well? Because it was just meant to give them money the whole time. And crypto is great for transferring money internationally from shady organizations to shady people.
The formula is using memecoins with far right catchphrases to give money to far right extremist groups to fund them. Once the government is taken over, they can force their memecoin as the national currency and then rug pull, which is also what Musk is likely going to do to Tesla at the same time. The entire point is to bankrupt America for Putin and his cartoon villain cohorts.
“Musk’s fear over the U.S.'s spiraling $35 trillion debt pile comes as the bitcoin price has surged—outpaced by the price of the meme-based bitcoin rival dogecoin that’s boomed thanks to Musk’s backing of the Department Of Government Efficiency, nicknamed Doge.”
He doesn’t have fear about the debt that Trump added on. He’s trying to attack us financially and will use this to justify collapsing Tesla stock.
If you’re in Germany, take note. They are coming for you next, your election is soon.
News Links
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/trump-infiltrate-voting-machines-georgia-2020.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1112436
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/us-election-software-national-security-threats-00176615
Personal Testimony from the Colluders
https://grabien.com/story.php?id=499986
Joe Rogan says Elon had data for election results on his phone 4 hours before official counts
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-airs-melania-trumps-nudes-primetime-1982683
" [Melania, naked] lying on a blue carpet with the U.S. seal, as though the editors of lthe men’s magazine knew something in advance about the future of their model."
They are just confirming she’s their asset.
youtube.com/live/HBPNfAUPz08?si=PZQa_D_wbN9VoA6y
In the first minute:
“Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico.”
“Too Big to Rig”
“If you can watch your vote counter, if we can bring God down from heaven (he’s referencing Starlink), we can win this, win California, win a lot of states.”
“If [Trump] loses, I’m f*cked… How long do you think my prison sentence is going to be?”
Why does Elon think he would go to prison though? For what crime?
youtu.be/Zmc0EN8XAY8?si=5u_mJNte37r4JmUb
Trump:“Our little secret is having a big impact”
If Trump was so sure the election was rigged and they were going to turnover every state including California, then why hasn’t he asked for a recount in all the states with representatives that didn’t get elected that he thought would be? Shouldn’t he be suing for recounts? He did it last time. Why doesn’t he want an investigation this time?
One piece of this is pretty easily debunked:
“Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico.”
If that were true, why didn’t they? 🤔
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico
Not only did Trump lose, he wasn’t even close.
Fewer people turned up for Harris, likely due to the lower emphasis on vote by mail this year compared to 2020, but he still lost.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico
As for the whole “Starlink hacked the machines!” that’s as crazy a claim as the Hugo Chavez claims from 2020.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/11/left-wing-conspiracy-theorists-elon-musk-satellites/
"There is no evidence to support the claims spreading on social media. US voting machines are typically disconnected from the internet in order to prevent interference.
Last week Jen Easterly, director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, said there was “no evidence of any malicious activity that had a material impact on the security or integrity of our election infrastructure”.
Allegations that there are millions of “missing” votes have been spread by both Democrats unhappy about Trump’s victory and Republicans who claimed the theories vindicate their concerns about the 2020 result.
The discrepancy in the number of votes cast is mostly down to slow vote counting in California, which as of Monday had only processed around 74pc of ballots despite being called for Kamala Harris days ago."
I’m not going through the rest of the claims as it’s obviously just so much tinfoil hattery.
Youtube is not a source, anyone can go on Youtube and say anything.
Ditto Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc. etc.
3 sources of Wikipedia, Wikipedia, Telegraph. Lol.
And still more useful than your sources.
Trump did not win New Mexico despite your claim that they could flip it by cheating, that’s not up for debate.
Voting machihes are NOT connected to the Internet, starlink or otherwise. Again, not up for debate.
Take your tin-foil hat somewhere else.
Bruh the voting machines indeed are connected to the internet. I have given you multiple official sources for this.
It’s not a tinfoil hat if it’s real.
Wow, I can’t believe how much people like you support fascism with your deliberate ignorance.
I’m sorry, a) your sources aren’t official and b) it’s factually NOT TRUE.
You are now banned for repeated misinformation.
I’m pretty excited to see the left wing numerologists emerge from the woodwork. Don’t forget to buy those supplements.
So what exactly is philosophically unsound about what I said?
We can philosophically find the inconsistencies in numerology to debunk it as a science or predictive method. So what am I saying that is illogical?
I think the illogical part is how you cited sources that don’t say what you claim they are saying.
This is called “disinformation” folks
Which article specifically is wrong?
YouTube is indeed a source as people have official YouTube channels. I’m linking a video of someone saying something - that’s a source. People who are young think sources are only weblinks because they’ve never written a bibliography without links in it at all. That used to be the norm.
couldve been louder a couple months ago
Like in most wars, Americans have come too late again.
This is hardly the first protest against Trump…
Wasn’t the time to protest like before the election? Can’t figure the US line of reasoning
They were protesting before the election. You just weren’t paying attention
Or voting against a racist and facist for oval office.
I think Trump’s strategy was “I’m going to sound so crazy every Democrat will assume I’ll lose and don’t bother voting”.
And it worked.
TWICE
That’s how it was for me except I did vote. But I was so confident we had it in the bag.
both times dem consultants took the bait and courted republicans. Though this is the first time right wing immigration policies were pushed by the democrat.
Hillary campaigns with Kissinger, Harris campaigns with the Cheneys, and then Democrats wonder why no one trusts them.
The only reason the DNC couldn’t get Kissinger for this election is that he couldn’t get a weekend pass from hell.
Well, at a certain point, “just don’t be that big a dumbass” has to happen because things really can’t stay together otherwise. Assuming he couldn’t win is a perfectly sensible assumption. You can lead 73 million horses to water but you can’t make them drink.
A mandate of hate.
I see all these comments roasting the protestors, but I’m just glad people are angry. It would have been great if the election went differently, but it didn’t, and we are where we are. Support people getting mad with how things turned out. Stop acting like all these people did nothing until now. I voted, and I’m protesting. I’ll happily welcome non voters in the protests too. Turn your frustration and anger against the people you oppose instead of willing allies.
Yeah. The best time to do this was a week ago. The next best time is for the next four years
Stop acting like all these people did nothing until now
Well no, they did do something.
They voted for Trump.
Something something chickens something something home to roost and all that.
Normally I would agree. However these people will have to live through and experience the reality of it all.
If that doesn’t wake them up then we truly are fucked.
I highly doubt the people protesting Trump voted for him.
Come on.
Apparently thier distaste for the man didn’t involve giving a shit enough to stop him from taking power.
But we should certainly accept anyone who has had a true change of heart in voting for Trump and regrets it or even felt pressured to vote that way in the first place.
I understand wanting to protest, but what could it possibly accomplish? If you are protesting the incoming administration, they’re certainly not going to care. If you’re protesting the current administration, there’s nothing they can do. If you’re protesting the people who didn’t vote, I’m pretty sure they already know we’re mad at them. As of yet there’s no evidence of outright cheating (if it turns out there is, that would be a better time to protest). But protesting just because you don’t like the results of a race is a bit like throwing a tantrum.
I mean as an American it’s still technology my right.
People who say protests are useless should be cursed with diarrhea farts every time they sneeze
Maybe the point of the protest is to bring awareness to the public?
Awareness of what? As badly informed as most people are, I’m still certain that most Americans know Trump won.
I’m all for protests, and lord knows we will be needing them, but protests should have some kind of coherent demands. The left wastes a ton of energy spinning it’s wheels.
Maybe the point of the protest is to bring awareness to the public?
Maybe. How useful is “awareness”?
When I look at the biggest protests in the US there’s plenty of awareness about around all the biggest protests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size
Going down that list, it’s hard to find evidence that the awareness got us anywhere.
- George Floyd - We keep saying his name. Has there been any change in police violence or accountability?
- Earth day - We’ve been talking about this forever and we keep breaking records on extreme weather events.
- 2017 Women’s March - We just elected the chief pussy grabber.
- March for Our Lives - Guns are still everywhere.
- 2018 Women’s March - See number 3.
- RickyRenunicia - I have to pass on this one. I have no idea what the state of corruption in PR is.
- Great American Boycott - Democrats switched to agreeing with Republicans on immigration.
- LGB - You can reasonably argue that sexuality related rights have improved. It’s not clear that this protest was a particular catalyst for that. If we want to pin things on a single event, Stonewall probably had a bigger impact.
- Anti Nuclear - More countries than ever believe they need nukes to survive. We’re now unironically talking about the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
- Million Man March - See number 1
I could go on, but the track record for the 10 biggest protests isn’t great.
Whatever you say, diarrhea farts
You can type all that but not do even a tiny bit of research to look at thousands of examples worldwide and in history?
https://now.org/about/history/history-of-marches-and-mass-actions/
It’s cute that you can call me names.
Can you also articulate positive changes that have resulted from the 10 biggest protest?
Women’s Suffrage was fairly significant and the Civil Rights movement also used protests. Then in the 2000s people rose up against the canceling of Firefly and demanded a movie as compensation. Serenity was that movie and it was awesome and it remains amazing.
Finally, internationally one man named Gandhi used nonviolence to defeat the British empire.
Then in the 2000s people rose up against the canceling of Firefly and demanded a movie as compensation
lmao
Women’s Suffrage (and additional rights) and the Civil Rights movement both had many successes. They also used many tactics and strategies besides protests and that makes it hard to attribute their success to protests. That’s why I looked at the 10 largest protests in the US on Wikipedia. There’s obviously some subjectivity to which protests are the most salient but it’s fair to assume that a large number of those should actually be the most important protests. The fact that we didn’t see progress as a response to any of the biggest protests suggests that they don’t have much of an impact.
I view the Firefly situation a bit differently too. We actually wanted them to bring Firefly back as a show. As near as I can tell Joss made the movie (which I agree was and still is awesome) because he loved the story and wanted to finish it. He may have been uplifted by the support of the fans but he didn’t give in to anyone’s demands. Fans kept badgering him to pick the series up after the movie and argued that the success of the movie proved that the series would make money but he told us that wasn’t possible because too many of the actors where on other projects. I have to admit that Summer Glau made a pretty good terminator.
Ghandi is an interesting case. He also used many tactics and strategies beyond protest and he was dealing with a very different situation. Their oppressor was thousands of miles away and got a bit tied up with bigger problems. There is also a strong academic consensus that he likely delayed Indian independence.
It’s not me that needs to write that history essay, it’s you. I’m not doing your work for you. Try reading a book.
How about you can the “I’m-not-gonna-do-your-work-for-you” shit and just answer the question, if you can? Because it sounds like you’re just trying to save face because he has your ass over a barrel and you know it.
Maybe we should stop being in denial about how useless the left is in this country and actually organize into an effective voting block.
I don’t know man, I’m still an amateur on this whole scene, admittedly. I do know that when my loved ones are put at risk I’m not just going to shrug and say, “guess this is just how it’s gonna be, voters voted for it.” It’s unsurprisingly feeling just like the last time Trump was in power. I happen to be of a demographic that is at minimal risk personally, but my neighbors are being threatened and their property has been vandalized with hate speech. They’re scared to leave the house. I’ve got family and friends being told they don’t deserve to have the same rights as everyone else and targeted by open acts of hatred. A lot of Americans may have voted in support of this kind of thing, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to just shut up, roll over, and accept it. If that’s considered throwing a tantrum, then okay. I would expect anyone to throw such a tantrum in the same kind of circumstances, including my political opposites.
Where did I say you should roll over and accept it or do nothing? The only thing I said was that protest won’t change anything, specifically right now. There are plenty of other things you can do besides protest.
Personally, if we get to a point where there’s an organized multi-state secessionist movement, I’ll join that army in a heartbeat to try to take back at least part of our country. We’re not at that point yet.
They get to go to reeducation camp first!
