I highly doubt the left will do anything uncivil. How can they win back the country? Is it too late?

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    Yes. It is too late. This was the inevitable outcome. Sooner or later.

    Dems here are like UK Labor. They’re a right wing party who occasionally cosplays as a left leaning one when they need to. They stand as the bullwark against any form of left wing populism. And they’ve done their job to the letter.

    Our economy is almost entirely debt driven financialization and gambling. There is another subprime mortgage crisis brewing. Exactly the same as the one in '08, except way bigger. And our economy is far more precarious than it was then.

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    Americans HAVE their country, this is what they want, this is what they voted for. Stop treating Americans as if this is something pressed upon them. They chose this. Now they will live with the consequences.

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    Who knows. Apparently half my country is full of legitimately hateful people who just want to watch the people they don’t like suffer.

    How the fuck do we come back from that? Honestly, are we even worth redeeming?

    For me, this is it. This is when America died. If you’re still “proud” to be an American after this, you’re brain-damaged.

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    Win it back from who?

    Other Americans who made this choice know who Trump is and thats what they want.

    The Rich have always owned this country. No one is taking anything from them. Its illegal to try.

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    Regardless of your views on the Orange Grifter / Gift from God (delete as applicable) this question is fundamentally flawed. “How do we build bridges, find common ground and begin to win over our fellow US citizens who have, in my opinion, made a poor and misinformed political choice that could have terrible consequences for them, our country and the world at large?” might be a more appropriate opener. I understand you’re upset, scared, desolate etc but your language comes off as belligerent and aggressive. Perhaps soften your tone and be more receptive to others’ concerns. For the record, I’ve got no flies on this turd as I’m not from the US, nor do I live there. Good luck.

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    I think that first you have to start by admitting two things:

    1. Americans did win their/your election
    2. Americans have l9st faith in their democratic institutions

    After that, you can look at why the Democratic parties fail to appeal to Americans, and try to reform them.

    If you go outside of democracy to gain democracy, then you probably lose what’s left of your democracy.

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    We radicalize, organize, pour into our communities, support one another, find people already doing the work and join in, and keep fighting like hell.

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    How do North Koreans win their country back?

    How do Chinese win their country back?

    How do Russians win their country back?

    How do Hungarians win their country back?

    How do Iranians win their country back?

    How do South Koreans win their country back?

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    Maybe Biden could pack the Supreme Court before leaving office.

    It wouldn’t be a great idea in the long run, but it’d potentially stop the entire system from functioning right now.

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        My only real conclusion is that they’re all in on it.

        Biden had four years and still has a few months for sweeping executive orders. If he doesn’t at least try, he’s a fucking coward or on the payroll.

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      Packing the court requires legislation, in which he needs Congress to send him a bill, and between the Republican House and the Filibuster in the Senate that was never happening.

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        Not when the past 50 years have been so it’s harder and harder for the people the current rulers don’t like don’t get guns

        Literally the prison system was made so those who object now legally can’t buy guns

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      Liberals have more guns. I hate hearing this bullshit point echoed like it’s some grand revelation.

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      We have guns on the left, too. We just aren’t as masturbatory about them.

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        Hell of an uphill battle against MQ-9s, hellfire, and LRAS.

        Too many people stayed home when they should have voted. It was their civic duty and moral goddamn obligation to the rest of the world. Fuck…