• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It’s completely in her power to stop whitewashing a genocide and creating false equivalences by calling it a “war”.

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      Not until after the election. She’s walking a wire trying to get nonMAGA republicans to vote for her in order to save Democracy. They need to at least pretend to believe she won’t completely abandon Israel. If she can beat Trump, she’ll then be free to call a genocide a genocide. In any case, Trump wants to end the war by letting his buddy Bibi nuke Gaza and just fucking kill all the Palestinians. A “final solution” as it were.

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      Not if she wants to get elected. I’ve said since the convention that they’re trying their best to not piss off either side and that’s mostly been their strategy. Even when she’s releasing statements on the death of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders she’s very careful to say, as an American leader, I’m glad this dude, who killed Americans, is dead.

      Of course that was evidence of her being a flaming Zionist to people who want Trump elected.

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        If she came out against Israel she would get a 6 point bump in the polls and win a landslide. Democrats in swing states outperform her in every poll.

        You are completely full of shit; just saying whatever stupid shit you feel like you want to be true

        shut the fuck up

        Even when she’s releasing statements on the death of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders she’s very careful to say, as an American leader, I’m glad this dude, who killed Americans, is dead.

        Oh shit, you don’t say? Celebrating the assassination of the people she supposedly wants to negotiate a peace deal makes people (with a fucking brain) think she’s a raging zionist?

        THATS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FUCKING BRAIN

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          2 months ago

          You may already be aware that tone policing is a major component of .world moderation, so incivility is liable to get you censored or even banned. But it also creates a lot of user reports which fill up our report queue, even though we don’t admin .world.

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          Most of those Democrats aren’t campaigning on BDS either and the polling is inconclusive. It turns on how exactly the questions are asked. The only concrete thing we’ve actually seen from them is that Americans want their president to negotiate a peace as soon as possible.

          She’s not negotiating anything yet. She’s working with cards dealt by someone else. And she will be doing so as President too because that’s the life of a third party mediator.

          If you want someone who will wave a magic wand and expect results, vote for Trump.

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            This is by far the dumbest excuse out of all of them.

            The defacto leader of the governing party is a smol bean with no influence

            Thank god even on this shithole instance you’re getting the downvotes you deserve

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              I don’t know what country you think she’s running to be president for, but Netanyahu is not going to be her subordinate. She cannot simply order the end of the Gaza war. She also doesn’t get to choose the representatives in Congress. This isn’t a party system where representatives are pre-approved and seated in order. She gets the representatives that each district sends. Obviously there’s some influence there but there’s also limits, as the entire ordeal of being primaried shows.

              So I don’t know what else to say except welcome to American Civics 101. Pocket constitutions are on the table on the right, and political sports regalia on the left table.

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                I don’t know what country you think she’s running to be president for, but Netanyahu is not going to be her subordinate.

                Fucking idiotic statement. Yes he will. The state of Israel is very literally a subordinate of the US and entirely dependent on it. I’m baffled that you can be so poorly informed and still have such a high self image so as to be the most condescending idiot I’ve ever met.

                She cannot simply order the end of the Gaza war.

                She very literally can. Just as Biden can end the war instantly by refusing to rearm them. How can you be so fucking lazy as to not look into the things you say?? How can you be so fucking stupid??

                She also doesn’t get to choose the representatives in Congress.

                As the leader of the national party, she very literally does. The democratic party chooses people to run. AARON FUCKING SORKIN IS LESS OF A DIPSHIT LIB THAN YOU. Holy fucking shit. Look outside the fucking window of your mind palace. The most condescending fucking idiot I’ve ever met.

                Obviously there’s some influence there but there’s also limits, as the entire ordeal of being primaried shows.

                And as we saw in the 2016 and 2020 presidential primaries the national party can’t simply pick who they want. Let alone in smaller races that can be run with a fraction of the money!

                Fucking stupid. There’s no other word for it. You’re just fucking stupid.

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                  I really hope you aren’t American because you don’t actually have the first clue as to how we elect Congress. She can’t even refuse to seat representatives. There’s 435 districts that elect their own representative, and they’re the only ones that can fire that representative. She could remove support for their next election but the party would need to make sure to line up a replacement and gear up to support their replacement in the inevitable primary fight. They cannot do that 215 times. They can’t do it 4 times. It took AIPAC to unseat one of the 4 left most Democrats. Their entire attention is on districts that are threatened by Republicans. And if you think they’re going to primary a proven winner in a purple district then you’re really smoking something.

                  So when the House party leader speaks. The President listens.

                  Nor have you considered that Israel could easily continue the food blockade under the guise of a continued war, without American bombs. It doesn’t take the US to manufacture bullets. That’s why the end of the war, and not just weapon shipments is desirable.

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          Yeah, no. Just not true. 6 point bump lol you fucking clown. I don’t think you understand how much power the Israel lobby has here. She would 100% lose if she came out strong against the genocide.

          Wait until she is elected, then criticize her if she refuses to call it a genocide.

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            Yeah, no. Just not true. 6 point bump lol you fucking clown. I don’t think you understand how much power the Israel lobby has here.

            Clearly you’ve spent more than half a second thinking before you wrote this because it’s just such a smart thing to say.

            Obviously the Israel lobby would change public opinion on a thing rather than how politicians act despite public opinion.

            She would 100% lose if she came out strong against the genocide.

            Based on what? I gave you concrete evidence to say the opposite. Why does your imagination mean more than reality? Baby brain.

            Wait until she is elected, then criticize her if she refuses to call it a genocide.

            What an amazing democracy where you can only criticize your politicians when they have literally no reason to listen to you.

            You’re just so fucking smart it’s amazing. Everything you say is on point and well thought out.