I’ll start off with one, Being upset about a breakup that happened hundreds of years ago.
Edit 1:
- Heath death of the universe, Death of the sun, etc, does not count. I feel like focusing on this is an overused point.
Edit 2:
- Loneliness does not count. I feel like we all know immortality means you’ll miss people and lose them.
Cancer. So much goddamn cancer. It doesn’t matter what kind of immortality you have, you WILL get cancer. Repeatedly. Over and over. Forever.
Immortality means you could, just keep ripping it out 🤣
That really depends on the type of immortality you get. Brain upload to a cyborg body doesn’t get cancer.
i think that experiencing all the things & people i care about would be the worst of it.
either that or seeing us repeat history over and over again as a society complete with all of the indifferent cruelties it entails and studying it, but ignoring it anyways
Family meals that take 3 restaurants No retirement
Rephrase?
I think they’re saying this:
Family meals would comprise of three restaurants worth of people since they’re all immortal
Separately, you can never retire since you will never hit retirement age
If you’re immortal, you get to see your family expand to the points that organizing a single family meal requires 3 restaurants to house everyone.
Since you (presumably, otherwise it’s a shitty immortality) don’t get old, you don’t get to retire
Retirement is a function of money/wealth, not age.
If you’re immortal, you’d (not you specifically, just whoever in general) have to be a complete tool to go through hundreds/thousands of years without generating at least enough wealth to retire at some point.
Loneliness. I think being immortal would show someone what true Loneliness is
Forgetfulness. Think how forgetful people get after having lived a normal lifespan, now go for a few thousand+ years and you’ve probably forgotten whole centuries of your life. This is actually the premise of a solo journaling game Thousand Year Old Vampire, you have to cross out and forget memories as you progress through the game, just forgetting whole parts of your life.
There’s a Doctor Who episode with that idea in it too, the Doctor saves a girl in Viking times but brings her back forever, and when he meets her in mediaeval times she has a whole library of books that are just her memories that she’s written down over the years.
What episode?
Actually it was a two-parter, S09E5&6 (of the reboot), called The Girl Who Died and The Woman Who Lived.
Here’s a clip of the relevant bit!
People are commenting ‘fates worse than death’ and ‘being made into a labrat by the 1%’, but really, if you have infinite time to just do stuff and you can’t be killed – And you don’t somehow squirrel your way into a position of power then what are you even doing with your time and immortality, oomfie?
The loneliness part is also questionable. I know OP said it’s overly done, but I also think it’s just wrong. If you’re an adult you’ve had people in your life die before. It sucks. You miss them. But then you move on. And you meet other people. You’ll still go “:(” when you think about the person and such… But life goes on.
And that’s just life. It doesn’t get any worse if you extend it longer – If anything it gets better. You might have lost your beloved today, but you have another dozen lifetimes to heal your wounds and meet someone else and fall in love again and (…)
So here’s some lower-stakes, frustrating inconveniences of being immortal:
- Your favourite fashion? It’s not just out of fashion. It’s so out of fashion it is now considered ‘historical costuming’. You can no longer find any articles like it at all. Because the only people even trying to recreate the techniques are costuming nerds and theater people who always exaggerate stuff
- You got a song stuck in your head. It is either from before recording was invented, or any recordings of it that existed are too old to be reliably listenable. You have a song stuck in your head.
- You used to really enjoy a job you did. That entire career path is now obsolete. As per the first paragraph of my post, if you’re immortal you have probably snuck your way into the upper echelons of society at some point during your infinite time… But like. You’re bored. You loved being a Court Jester, now there are no Court Jesters.
- Actually tedium just in general. Sooner or later you’ll run out of new things to try, because you’ll have done everything that even remotely caught your eye already. So what the fuck will you do with your time? You’ll eventually just get depressed and not do anything.
Feeling bad for the immortals who were professional garden hermits.
Btw if you were actually immortal, after a while you would just go into shock and enter a vegetative state from all the psychological stress.
And after a while you’d come out of that state
How can you be sure?
Losing all of the skills you gain. No matter how good you get at something, after a few centuries you’ll have lost your edge. You can also only practice so many things concurrently without giving something up. At some point, years down the line, you might try to ride a bike again and completely fail to do it, or try to sing and fail to hit all the notes that came easily before, or do gymnastics but the muscles you need are underused. It doesn’t matter that you spent years mastering every skill, your abilities will degrade over time. You’ll never really be able to feel sure about your own abilities except for whatever you’ve done most recently.
You don’t know the expression, “it’s like riding a bike”?
If you haven’t ridden a bike in 20 years, go try it. But now 2000 years.
But the famous thing about learning to ride a bike is that you don’t forget, even after decades. I’ve just looked it up to double-check and all I got was articles about why you never forget. It’s like saying you’ll forget how to walk up stairs or something.
Famous sayings so not equal reality.
I mean, you could look it up yourself if you doubt it so.
If you have epilepsy or Parkinson’s or MS, you’re just going to likely get worse forever.
No matter how old, how experienced, or how talented you are, there’s always some Asian kid that’s better than you.
You gain some kind of magical immortality ahead of everyone else… But then, a few hundred years later, everybody else gains some kind of technological immortality that’s way cooler/better, that your magical immortality is incompatible with. And you get left behind as the slow, weak, dumb, magical, biologically immortal human while everyone else is zipping around at light speed with gigabrains and shiny chrome spaceship bodies with 20 additional senses.
Cross the wrong people and you end up not dead, but irrecoverable. Cement shoes, buried alive kind of stuff. Cross a different set of wrong people and you become a labrat. To avoid either scenario, you’ll be in a constant state of “undocumented” or false-documented which will keep you in a pretty consistent state of poverty.
There’s a book I heard about where the main character is immortal. Nevertheless at one point he pisses off some mafia dudes, and they nail him inside a barrel full of urine and throw him in the sea.
Just a random thought, but it would take a lot of work (or institutional access to some portable toilets) to be able to her enough piss to fill an entire barrel
Nobody is answering the prompt lol. Everyone says all of this shit all the time.
You live long enough to never feel at home. Sure the loneliness sucks or whatever, but who do you root for at the football game?
Having to buy new shoes for the rest of eternity. You know how much work I’ve literally just put into finding shoes that 1) don’t suck and 2) aren’t made with slave labor? It’s impossible. Drives me insane. I’d found my own shoe company once I become immortal rich just to fix that problem alone. Maybe other stuff too we’ll get there
I suppose on that note: it seems like a really bad idea to become a public figure after a while. Like you obviously don’t want your immortality found out. You have to have like illuminati power before that point though, but it could happen at any time. Like if something happens and you become a news item (i.e. helping someone out and a video goes viral online). Not saying everyone is all that close to going viral, but over a sufficiently long lifespan you’re effectively rolling that dice a lot.
Upsides: You can create a cult where they believe in you as a god, because you will live for eternity.
If we’re talking magical immortality, as in you can’t die, at all. Then the fact that however much enjoyment and experiences you get while the universe still exist, it will be followed by an infinite stretch of nothing after the heat death of the universe.
Then again, you have billions of years to come up with a solution to this problem.
I think the estimates are much, much longer until that happens.
Then there are options:
- You find a solution. Great!
- You do not find a solution, but spend whatever time is left in the universe working on it, and then spend infinite time in darkness. Not great.
Kind of a gamble :D
Everyone else in your life that isn’t immoral (if you’re the only one who is) dies eventually, so every time you make a friend or start a family, you do so knowing that you will have to watch them all die someday.
Wow you’re a real smart one, nobody has ever thought about that. Read the Question in the title again.
Wage slaving never stops
If your immortal what’s the motivation? Not like you have costs to maintain your laborforce .