I feel like my phone apps update constantly. In general, that’s a good thing, I assume. I figure they’re fixing bugs or whatever. However, I don’t run into issues very often, nowhere near the rate of updates, and nothing seems to change after the update.

Compare that to Steam games which update really infrequently and the changes are usually much more obvious.

  • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    I would set that automatic app update off, apps are to known to sometimes update to newer enshittied versions like Fantastical did.

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    28 days ago

    While I can’t speak to specific apps alot of times it’s house cleaning stuff.

    Maybe some bug that affects a certain number of users is found and fixed. And the update resolves that bit, since you weren’t affect, you don’t notice it.

    Other times it’s to include fixes in libraries they’re using. So, for example, a JSON parsing library may have a security fix and they updated their app to use that newer version.

    Another could be some behind the scenes api/library updates. Maybe a service they’re using for content (such as interacting with Lemmy) or maps or advertisements is being updated and they need to point their app to the new service address or change how they interact with it.

    And of course there could be feature updates but those, usually, would be things you’d notice. Although, in some cases, it may be packaged with the application but waiting for some criteria (a backend service to be ready) or may even be part of A/B testing where some users get one change while others don’t so the developer can see which features are preferred using real data.

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    28 days ago

    With games, frequent and regular updates are mainly to keep people returning to the game and to fix bugs. Many apps already implement most of the features people need and dont really need new features for people to keep coming back, so the focus is moreso on maintaining compatibility and fixing bugs like crashes, as well as keeping up with OS updates (which tend not to affect games as severely, though can in some cases). Keep in mind theres a huge number of different phones which are on different OS versions with different system APIs, and msny devs dont test on a large number of devices. Desktop drivers and OSs tend to smooth over a lot of the hurdles there

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    28 days ago

    Most apps will be built using libraries to provide functionality.

    For example a Lemmy client might use a small database to store cached data on the device so it doesn’t have to redownload data as you navigate back and forth. Rather than writing their own code to create and maintain the database that functionality is available as a library they can import into their app and use immediately.

    There might be dozens or even hundreds of libraries in any given app, this is great in that the app developer can focus on their app specific features and not worry so much about the low level features but these libraries also have their own release schedule and may only support security fixes on their current version.

    This can result in a situation where you could have weekly or monthly updates just to include library updates even if you haven’t added any features directly to the app itself.

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    28 days ago

    I’m not normally a conspiracy guy but I have an old app that I swear they update (but not really) just so that people think it is active.

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    28 days ago

    I see a lot of the other reasons mentioned, but one I don’t: on android you are required to release updates at least every year-ish or they will completely delete your developer account and app.

    Source: got that message recently for an app I made and haven’t had a reason to update.

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      28 days ago

      What a crock.

      I get the reasoning, but there’s gotta be a better way to manage stale apps.

      I have a number of apps that aren’t on Play and work fine, I just save the apk or back it up with Swift or Neo Backup.

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        28 days ago

        lol I just checked and I had 26 pending app updates. Every one of them had about the same level of detail.

        The only exceptions were the Wikipedia app and Voyager, both of which listed some new features.

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        27 days ago

        There are maybe 3 of my ~50 apps that provide actual changelogs. All the others only write “bug fixes and performance improvements”, puns or other marketing pitches.

        I disabled auto updates and only update if there are actual changelogs or the app doesn’t let me use it anymore without updating. But there have been too many automatic enshittifications for me to trust auto updates.

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    28 days ago

    What’s better is on an iPhone or iPad you can set the apps to auto update and it will not auto update. It’s normal for me to check and have 15 apps that have updates that have been sitting there for a month.

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    28 days ago

    Pokemon Go

    I swear, it seems to have weekly 100 MB updates that change nothing, make something worse, or just change the splash screen.

    Those updates are unaffectionately called “streak breakers” because by the time it updates, I’ve forgotten to launch it again.

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    28 days ago

    Yeah, try using Android 3 Honeycomb. Go on. Give it a try.

    It’s not that nothing changes. It’s that changes are small. Humans react violently to big changes. If you change everything about an app all at once, people will hate the app, and leave.

    If you make all those same changes, but spread them out over 2 years? They adjust. It’s like giving someone a pill to swallow. You don’t give them a pill the size of a watermellon, and expect them to swallow it. Instead you break it up into pieces and slowly feed them the whole pill over time.

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    27 days ago

    The standard answer is “security”…and that may be true in some cases.

    But a lot of it is just job justification. Some beleaguered coder somewhere has to do a thing because their manager has to do a thing because their director has to do a thing and so on. Box checking exercises.

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      27 days ago

      I’m glad in my 30 years of work I’ve never even caught a whiff of this nonsense. I’d undoubtedly heckle someone who proposed it to the point where I’d be fired. And I’d do it again.

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      27 days ago

      Also the app is probably built on a mountain of dependencies all of which have updates and security patches and bullshit. Delaying those updates for too long makes finally making a real update a nightmare, so you occasionally release updates just to keep up.

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    27 days ago

    Some good answers here. Also developers regularly add or update translations, support new features your phone doesn’t even have, compatibility with a different smartwatch, or regular bugfixes that only trigger in special circumstances and just for some users… All of that is difficult to notice for the regular user. Unless you buy the latest smartwatch an try to operate the app with it, or set your phone to Arabic.

    And then there are maintenance tasks that don’t add any (visible) features. And apps are generally part of some more infrastructure at the respective company. Internal changes in their workflow or related software might change things. Or they decide to prepare something for the future or make it more efficient.

    Sometimes they just update the year in the copyright notice. Or they re-build the app with the latest versions of the libraries that are supplied by different companies or open source projects. Those regularly change, fix bugs and generally you don’t want to depend on any old software library versions with known bugs and vulnerabilities. So there are a lot if reasons why software gets updated without visible changes.

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      27 days ago

      Oh god. These app updates are so huge, I wonder if anything about this is diff/delta.

      Maybe I’m old but having 20 apps wanting 200MB+ updates and all of them having the filler text gets to me.

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    27 days ago

    I disabled updates (though it looks like some Google apps update anyway) and majority continues to work. Few apps occasionally start a protest and tell me that I need to update before they resume their work.

    It doesn’t answer your question, but indeed points that mostly there is nothing important.