When JD Vance and Tim Walz take the stage for next week's vice presidential debate, CBS News says it will be up to the candidates, not the moderators, to fact-check each other.

CBS News, hosting vice presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz for the general election campaign’s third debate next week, says it will be up to the politicians — not the moderators — to check the facts of their opponents.

  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    *CBS is announcing that it will allow the Couchfucker to Gish Gallop.

    Fixed that title for you.

    • PLAVAT🧿S@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Yeah, and a side effect of refuting gosh gallop, if you even can, is that you end up wasting your time on the floor instead of discussing your points.

  • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Extremists (hint: not Tim Walz) will be able to just spout lies the whole time, and rational, honest candidates: (hint: not JD Vance) will have to either let them get away with complete bullshit assertions, or spend part of their time doing the job of the moderators… This is why no one believes in Journalism these days…

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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      1 month ago

      Let him get away with it, there’s only so many lies that you can prepare for and getting a fact check wrong is worse than just lying

  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    No holds barred free for all. I like it. This is going to be an amazing debate. Midwest against I have no idea what the hell Vance is.

    • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      “No holds barred” is still an honest fight.

      “No facts checked” favors the opponent who has no real principles or policy to defend. It’s like walking in the ring shotgun and the refs being like okay y’all on your own.

      It’s gonna be an absolute shit show and basically be a demonstration on how well can a liar Vance lie without being too obvious about being a liar. Best we can hope is that Walz will make it very obvious.

      Hopefully there will be a second or 2 to slip in something of more substance while we wipe the shit off our faces.

      • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Vance and Trump keep making the same lies even after they’re debunked, so Walz could make a bingo card ahead of time.

      • MyOpinion@lemm.ee
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        1 month ago

        Here is how you win. Prepare for lies. Do a quick fact check during each round and then punch him in the face with the truth. Laugh at him regularly for being a lying clown. Treat Vance with no respect.

    • Billiam@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Midwest against I have no idea what the hell Vance is.

      Ohio is also considered the Midwest.

  • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Vance isn’t Trump. He’s a wet noodle who can barely work his way through a sentence. Walz is an adorable teddy bear with claws.

    It’ll be the cutest bloodbath we’ve ever seen, and we’ll all laugh about how the old guy made the dude wearing eyeliner get scared of trans kids.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      It’ll be the cutest bloodbath we’ve ever seen

      When you wrestle the pig, you both get muddy but only the pig likes it.

      • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        Helps when the pig is both extremely popular already, and the pig’s opponent is… lol… well, JD Vance lmao

        Seriously, the guy lost a debate against the opening staff at a donut shop. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    • jonne@infosec.pub
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      1 month ago

      He’s ok with pushing outright lies, and it’s hard to keep up with all the right wing lies that are floating around. I hope Walz just starts calling them the liars they are instead of avoiding ‘name calling’.

      • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        Vance isn’t much of a public speaker, and, up against a debate opponent like Walz (who is a great public speaker), Vance is pretty much fucked. He won’t have much of a defense but to pivot when confronted, and Walz is both clever and persistent. He’s also extremely charming, which Vance extremely isn’t, lol.

        • proudblond@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 month ago

          You’re making me look forward to it. Kinda. Let’s say I’m looking forward to the instant replays by the Daily Show.

          • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            Well, it’ll probably be more policy-focused than anything with Trump, which is always just a clown show because Trump only knows how to be a clown. Vance will, at least, try to debate Walz, but it will quickly just be a timed trading of canned campaign jabs. How each plays it will be interesting to see, and - personally - I think it will be fascinating for 3 reasons:

            1. again, Vance’s relative terribleness vs Walz’s very goodness will be awesome to watch. Walz will kick Vance’s ass easily

            2. more than that, this debate will be far more substantive than the last debate, which was, basically, Kamala baiting Trump into crazy-shouting one crazy lie after another while Kamala just laughed and laughed.

            3. Tim Walz is, quite possibly, the most lovable guy to ever exist. JD Vance is, quite possibly, a new form of venerial disease.

    • paf0@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Vance is like a Dollar Store version of Trump. He looks like the same product, he tells the same lies, but the parts aren’t all there. He’s a grifter but he’s not in the same league as The Donald, he even looks like he’s in pain when he lies.

      • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        The fucked up part is that, since you can’t get cheaper than Trump, the knockoff is actually more expensive. Worse, Vance is also (somehow), dumber, poorer, less-popular, and more insecure. He’s also - unbelievably- worse with interactions with the public and with public speaking.

        And we’re about to find out how bad he is at debate against a real politician.

        • BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world
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          1 month ago

          Vance at least looks like an actual human, the Toupee’s human disguise was created by a sentient pile of excrement that only once glanced at a human from a distance.

    • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Vance isn’t Trump. He’s a wet noodle who can barely work his way through a sentence.

      But what is Vance?

  • ryper@lemmy.caEnglish
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    1 month ago

    The 90-minute debate, scheduled for 9 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday in a Manhattan studio that once hosted the children’s program "Captain Kangaroo,”

    Such an easy set up for Vance to call the moderators a “kangaroo court” if they get on his case.

  • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 month ago

    This would he concerning if I wasn’t convince that Walz would sit him down and correct him like a disappointed father.

    If anyone could make a politician seem like a child to their face it’d be him, and especially if that politician is Vance.

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Facts? Integrity? What the hell are you talking about? We need a ratings bump.

    CBS executives, probably.

    Anyway Walz is gonna eat Vance’s face for dinner and then shit down his throat hole. I look forward to catching the highlights reel online.

    • CitizenKong@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Walz just has to be himself and he will vastly outclass any pathetic attempts at appearing charismatic that Vance will be trying to conjure up.

      Then Vance will repeat Trump’s bullshit but more coherent and Walz will talk actual policy, probably appearing like the well-meaning teacher talking to the problem kid in class.