Republicans are suing in Pennsylvania to try to ensure voters have no way of counting their mail-in ballot if it includes minor technical errors, The New York Times reported on Thursday.Furthermore, this suit, filed by the Republican National Committee against the Pennsylvania secretary of state and...
  • chingadera@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Can we stop making posts containing the cesspool of a website raw story. Surely there’s another outlet that isn’t as poorly designed and needy.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    2 months ago

    Seems super easy… You mail in your ballot but forget to sign the back. Here in Oregon, the ballot is sent back to you for correction. You still have to return it on time, but you are allowed to correct it

    They want to make it in PA so that the ballot is just pitched.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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        2 months ago

        Correct, the signature is on the outside of the ballot envelope so the actual vote isn’t accessible until the signature is verified.

        • chingadera@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Not trying to take a stab at ya, but is it verified or is it just a check that it exists on the envelope?

          • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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            2 months ago

            When you vote, in person or by mail, your signature is compared with the registration signature on file.

            • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Though it was a few years ago, as someone who has worked the polls, here is what I recall about the poll operation and ballot collecting process:

              In MA, absentee/early ballots are sent out with barcodes that can be mapped back to a central DB. Afaik a maximum of one early ballot is sent out to any given voter. If you lose it, you’re walking to your polling station on election day. The mailed/dropped off ballots are scanned so that they’re routed to the correct voting precinct; they’re given to us on Election Day to run through with the in-person ballots.

              On Election Day, we sit there with registered voter lists (the list is shared, not duplicated - i.e. someone works a-f, someone else works g-k, etc.); people come in, tell us who they are (no, no id is checked, but they do need to give us a full, correct address that matches their stated name); they are marked off as “voted” on the list. Voters are provided with a ballot once they have been found on the list and marked off.

              Absentee ballots are run through the machines throughout the day; for every single ballot, we match it to a name on the list, and . If there are any duplicate ballots, that is caught at the voter list checking phase, and is flagged thusly for any necessary follow-up (confirmation, disambiguation, or legal action as necessary) and the extra ballot is set aside (whichever one we come across second).

              I’m pretty sure we had zero duplicates when I did it in the 2020 presidential (I feel like I would have remembered that, considering the political context at the time), and iirc we processed something in the neighborhood of 10,000ish ballots.

            • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              Which is a joke anyway. Signature verification is something that should be abandoned. People don’t care about their signature anymore. Plus, do the people doing the verification get any sort of training at all? Has there ever even been a study to show how accurate such comparisons are?

              • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                2 months ago

                fully agree, my signature is different every time I sign, my penmanship sucks so I never have it the same, I’ve never been questioned on it, likely due to the fact I don’t have a natural signature

  • taiyang@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    You know, the irony is this particular kind of cheating impacts Republicans too; it’s not hard to imagine the type to make such errors are the uneducated rubes voting for Trump.

    • Supervisor194@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I feel this way about all the meddling and bullshit that state actors are doing - Russia, China, Iran - are you really fucking certain that this isn’t going to fuck you in the ass worse than you’ve already been fucked? Really?

    • HamsterRage@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      I think that the idea is that more Dems use mail-in ballots than Reps. Hand in hand with tactics like restricting the number of polling stations in minority neighborhoods, it’s just another component of putting their thumb on the scale.

      • Sabata@ani.social
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        2 months ago

        PA is potently close enough based off of 2020 where not counting mail in ballots could flip the state in Trumps favor.