• theshatterstone54@feddit.uk
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    2 months ago

    If Harris wins, Trump loses. That much is certain. Can’t say much about what will happen next, because there’s no real way of knowing.

    Also, is nobody going to mention how typically, the incumbent stays as the next candidate, while the contender from the last election is replaced, because they were clearly not good enough for a win?

    While this time, It’s the opposite: the last winner stepped down, the last loser is a candidate once more. Isn’t that weird???

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    “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”. Ours will still be a genocidal nation of thieves. Nothing of worth or import will change, except the amount of blood on democrat hands. Which will only accumulate further, and faster.

    The crimes of this guilty land will never be washed away but with blood.

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      This will be the final result, but I’m just hoping his angry little mouth will say something treasonous enough to get him jail time.

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        Sry to be that guy but there’s currently basically no way for him to get in jail by saying bad things.

        Speech is never enough to prove insurrection or similar charges and the supreme court ruling on presidential immunity makes hard to get in trouble, even if there’s actions to prove he’s inciting something.

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      I think the bomb threats in Ohio after the dumbass pet eating lies were spread is a preview.

      Trumptards already saw their insurrection didn’t work and that prison is the consequence. Trump admitted that he lost the 2020 election and many of those cultists are mad about it. So I don’t think we will have a repeat of the Capitol attack, instead we may have some assorted terrorist threats and attacks. Hopefully if that does happen, it will further drive them into obscurity because normal people tend to not like terrorism.

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      Probably not, but it might be worse in terms of brutality against police.

      This time there will be massive security at place in critical locations. So probably no invasion of government buildings, but it might end worse in terms of violence.

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        In my local area, a lot of the people that were violent went to the Jan 6th and got arrested. So they are still in jail. I’m not seeing the ralleys like I did last time. Its interesting. The signs are still there, but it feels like a more “normal” election. But thats just my local area, no idea what others are experiencing.

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    2 months ago

    If Harris ins a small percentage of MAGA doughebags will embarrass the GOP further by getting violent. It will be over after a few days.

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    He doesn’t think that elections are a real thing. He doesn’t think that elections are legitimate, and he doesn’t want an American form of government in which elections decide whether or not he’s in power because he doesn’t believe election results should be binding.

    Rachel Maddow

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    I will cry with relief. I just can’t do another four years of him again. My stomach is in knots already. I have a LGBT kid. I can’t have her growing up oppressed. Having a rapist for a president is a joke.

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        It’s like they forgot about how MeToo got Old Yeller’d the minute someone accused Genocide Joe. They was out here like “we already gave up Franken we’re not giving up the kidsniffer”.

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          Funnily enough, my wife and I along with some friends have floated the “compound” idea in the mountains or somewhere like that. We’d each have jobs and grow food and such.

          But seriously, we’re trying to think of a plan if things go south in November. We’re in a very red state (thanks, hillbillies!), so fuck this place.

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            What kind of food can you grow in the mountains? Other than berries? This knowledge can become useful.

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              You can grow just about anything with the right setting. Greenhouses and seasonal vegetables in gardens. I’m not the expert in that, but when we lived in CO, there were plenty of fresh veggies available up there.

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                I forgot greenhouses exist… I’d be terrible at this. Need a new plan for zombie apocalypse.

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          A blue state? I’m going to try to get out of this country. Everywhere that’s not a financial or educational hot spot is deep red.

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    If Trump wins, I imagine Ivanka or Eric run in 2028 with the soft understanding that Donald is still running the show. If Donald was younger, GOP might try to remove term limits.

    If Harris wins, I expect not much of anything to change. Dems don’t have enough of the Senate to enact campaign promises, and if they did, they wouldn’t act in it like in the past.

    But hey, at least Dems populate government seats with people that seem to want to do a good job. We don’t have the owner of private schools leading the dept of education or C-Suite Exxon guys running the EPA or telecom guys running the FCC.

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    If it’s close the Supreme Court will steal the election for Trump. Kamala needs a blowout victory and I just don’t think that’s in the cards.

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      Oodles of historical precedent, too. All it takes is a few faithless electors. Hillary won by 3 mil, I don’t care enough about democrat collaborators to look up how much Gore won by. All it takes is a few crackers to throw the election.

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    Trump supporters generally are cowardly cattle. A few can obviously be riled up and pushed to do violence, but not enough to do any real damage. I mean in terms of a civil war. January 6th was a unique situation that will be better prepared for next time.

    Only about 30% of people even like trump; probably about 1% of those people are able-bodied, have weapons, have nothing to lose, and could be convinced to kill for him. Of course that’s still like a million people, which sure as shit ain’t nothing, but they’re spread out, unorganized, and still very few compared to military numbers. As for the block of people who would identify as not supporting trump, I couldn’t really guess numbers, but people are wildly mistaken to think that only people on the right have guns; we just don’t have murder boners or make guns our whole personality. I hope I only ever use my guns for target practice, but I’m absolutely ready to use them to defend my home and family if ever necessary, and I’m not interesting enough to have any reason to believe that that’s a likely scenario. Honestly, my biggest concern on that threat is a scenario where trump wins and releases voter registration info and SuGgEsTs that the second amendment folks do something about those tricksy democratses. The only other people dumb enough to break in while I’m home are cops, and I know that the courtroom is where you fight that flavor of fascism.

    Generally speaking, regarding the big question here of what will happen if Harris wins, I think that the answer is “nothing shocking”. There will be claims of an unfair election process, maybe some meek attempts at insurrection, continued prosecution and convictions for trump’s crimes (and probably slap on the hand sentences). The economy will gently recover, the future will be invested in, maybe some rights get legislatively protected. Military and police funding will continue to balloon forever. We’ll still fund genocides and fuck with any country that pivots toward socialism. “Nothing will fundamentally change” but it’s a hell of a lot better than the alternative.

    Then after 4 years of sexism and racism on OAN and Fox News, Desantis or a similar creep wins the presidency in '28. They roll back everything they possibly can and fuck the country up for the profits of billionaires and corporations again. Because reasonable people will get too comfortable to care enough, but unreasonable people can’t stop foaming at the mouth over every weekly culture war.

    When trump is finally gone, trumpism will still remain. And it will have prettier packaging. That’s when it gets really scary imo.

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      You forget one thing: the bulk of his supporters are old as fuck. They don’t have a lot of elections left in them. I would be far less pessimistic about '28. (Not that I think it’s a lock for the left, just that if Trump loses this time he has really fucked up the GOP and it may take a decade or two to get back to the power levels they have now.)

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    I think there will be some protests, some violence, but it will be much smaller than the protesters want it to be, and any violence will be swiftly met with law and order.

    Jan 6 happened in part because Trump was in power. Election deniers in every state tried to gum up the works, and will try again. But Trump is not in power. He cannot exchange favors or offer pardons. People obstructing the democratic process will be arrested and prosecuted.

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    We know one thing for sure… Genocide in Palestine will continue as scheduled.

    But hey vote my guy, trust me bro… she will deff save the Palestinians. She has not pro israel bias as woman married to a jew

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      She has no pro israel bias as woman married to a jew

      This part isn’t necessary to bring up. We already know she’s a patsy for the genocidal zionist lobby because you have to be to get anywhere in the democrat party. Evidence: everyone from AOC to Biden, Harris included. Bringing up who she’s married to makes your point sound klan-adjacent.