I’m sorry, but I don’t have a grand to throw at a single fucking processor. I can put together a whole computer for that kind of coin.
For me, it’s because:
- I have a 5950X and it seems pointless to upgrade from there. Sure the new stuff is faster, but disproportionately so for the price. I would need to replace a bunch of components.
- I recently upgraded to 128GB RAM, and it was cheaper to do that with DDR4
- I’ve had 2 faulty Ryzen processors (1700X, then my first 5950X), and I’ve learned to wait until the kinks are ironed out.
Out for curiosity, why do you need 128gb of ram?
Would have to buy new board and RAM, not really worth it performance-wise, at least not for me. Some day, yes, but that day hasn’t come and will definitely be after a GPU upgrade.
I’m still using a i7-3630QM and a R5-1600.
They are both enough for what I do with them. Why would I upgrade?
What are you using your computer for?? Just web browsing or something‽ I just upgraded from an i5-6600k/1060 setup and for like the past year and some change I’ve been hitting 100% CPU usage with just a few programs open, not even gaming lol
And that was with a CPU 3 generations newer lmao
Sounds like some bad software or something extra CPU intensive then. I use R5 2600 on W11 and it can handle everything I need with ease like web browsing (depending on pages and tab count it can be quite demanding), at least 3 VMs at the same time (2 Windows, 1 Linux), gaming, video transcoding. All that is not happening at the same time, but I can’t remember last time I checked Task Manager to see what is using my CPU.
The R5 2600 is not only newer than my old i5 and faster, it also has a LOT more threads (12 vs 4) and an extra 2 full cores
Making it excellent for the multi threaded workloads (VMs) and leaving room for non-multithreaded optimized workloads
I have an RTSP client program running all the time displaying a handful of camera feeds. It had a ~45-55% average CPU usage even with GPU decoding/encoding enabled on it.
That same piece of software on my much newer 7600 changing absolutely nothing else software wise (I just dropped in the SSD from my old build) that same software barely cracks 5%
iCUE (for Corsair RGB control (yes I know there’s open source versions I just never got around to it lol)) had a similar story with ~30-40% before and barely 4% now
Gaming, working (data processing, physical modelling).
The trick is to use a lower overhead OS than Windows.
Gaming is one thing, a lot is GPU bound anyways, probably the same with “physical modeling”
But you cannot tell me your “data processing” would not be greatly sped up by using a newer proc (assuming it’s not also GPU bound). Does it work, sure, but if it takes you 2 hours for it to process now but <30 minutes on something newer that’s just a waste of time, resources and money. It’s incredibly inefficient.
On the flip side, if all your work is GPU bound no wonder a 3rd gen proc from 2012 is keeping up lol
I’m waiting on the new X870 chipset boards to come out. Why buy an old board with a new processor?
Price drop put the 7900x at bargain bin prices and I bought that instead.
Why would I downgrade from my 7000x3d chip
Everybody has to support the new new underdog Intel.
I did! I bought shares when they tanked.
They’re still tanking
I got an 5800x3d and 64gb of ddr4. I see no need to jump up to a new CPU and invest in ddr5 memory yet. The performance benefit is only a few percent just isn’t worth the upgrade in my opinion
Let’s see… seems like i can upgrade my Asus PRIME X70-A to a Ryzen 9 5950X for about 300€… interesting…
The 5950X is now pretty midrange when it comes to some desktop benchmarks, but mine is still serving me well and I don’t feel I’m hitting the limits of the CPU. If I were shopping now I’d certainly find that price appealing for what it offers. I’m not considering Intel these days, but the price premium on latest-generation AMD CPUs is high.
It’s one of the latest my mobo can handle AFAIK, and i like to maximize my hardware for longevity (one of the reasons i prefer AMD over Intel, their CPU generations span multiple sockets).
Also, not a gamer.
Yes, I went up to a 5950x a while back from a 3600 for the same reason: it was the best CPU I could get without upgrading motherboard and RAM. And I hardly ever play games. Looking at the performance benchmarks it seems the X3D stuff actually slows down non-gaming workloads a bit (perhaps because it increases temperatures), so I don’t feel the need to chase after that tech.
It’s slower because it runs at lower clocks
I wouldn’t say nobody, but most people with a working Zen 4 don’t see the need.
And they’re the only people who can easily do it.
Anybody else needs a new motherboard and RAM. And for those people, they’re like “hmmm I can spend $700+ upgrading to Zen5, or I could spend $180 on a 5700X3D, not have to pull my entire PC apart, and get about the same real-world performance because I’ll be GPU bottlenecked anyway.”
I got another 3-5 years with my 5800X3D
I have an other 2-3 years with my 1600.
I’ve got another 5 or 6 years with my FX-8150.
F
We’re all broke and performance improvements have been basically stagnant?
We’re spending our money on fucking groceries… It’s time to optimize, not upscale.
You’d think there would be some value-add in cranking out the older chips faster and at a lower price point, rather than aiming for a marginal improvement in spec that nobody has a use for yet.
I’m currently in the market for a new CPU for my PC, so I did my research and I’m not going to buy a Zen 5 CPU either. The reason is simple: The Zen 4 X3D CPUs are faster. Because of that, everyone who wants a new CPU now is getting the Zen 4 X3Ds and everyone who can wait, is waiting for the Zen 5 X3Ds. There’s no point in getting the Zen 5 CPUs that are currently out.
Edit: Actually, after reading the top reply, I’m not sure anymore if the Zen 5s aren’t the better choice after all
I bought a 7800x3d, so I’m not in the market for a new CPU for years to come. If I hadn’t already bought it, I’d buy it now.
Same! I went from a 2700x to the 7800x3d. I’ll probably upgrade in 4-7 years depending on my financial situation and the specs for new hardware.
Ditto. 7800X3D is a beast for games and I don’t give half a shit about productivity performance on my gaming machine. I got mine for around $350 early this year and I’m absolutely floored that it’s now over $400. That’s not the direction things are supposed to go.
I think we may be in the last generations of x86’s desktop and laptop dominance. All phones and now all Macs run on ARM-based chips and they do just fine while sipping watts, compared to x86’s two big proponents both having faltering launches on their latest generations with ever higher TDPs where you only get more processing power by using more electrical power.
