• Deme@sopuli.xyz
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        Disruptions cause outrage

        Outrage sparks discusson

        Discussion leads to political pressure

        Political pressure leads to action that targets the oil industry

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          So close, yet so far away…

          Political pressure leads to action that targets the oil industry the protesters.

          FTFY.

          The only thing they have actually achieved is enhanced enforcement and penalties for impeding traffic.

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            The process I described unfortunately does take longer than the initial lashing outs of the establisment. A couple of “martyrs” may not be the worst thing either.

            YungOnions already provided you with some good articles about why and how nonviolent disruption works. I suggest you read them.

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              JSO “martyrs” are for the cause of free speech, not against oil. JSO is distracting people from oil. JSO is diverting legislative attention away from oil.

              I suggest you stop reading articles, and start looking at reality. The reality is that JSO has demonstrated they are as effective at “disrupting” the oil industry as the Westboro Baptist Church has been at “disrupting” homosexuality: not the fuck at all.

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                I’m not sure how you managed to misunderstand, but by disruptions I was referring to precisely the kind of disruptions of the lives of ordinary people that - and I’m sure we can at least agree on this - they have quite successfully caused.

                Our two parallel discussions are about the methods of protesting against the use of fossil fuels. Our discussions here exists because of JSO. It got you thinking about what should be done to get rid of the use of fossil fuels, even if this was just for the purposes of making counterarguments.

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                  I’m not sure how you managed to misunderstand, but by disruptions I was referring to precisely the kind of disruptions of the lives of ordinary people that - and I’m sure we can at least agree on this - they have quite successfully caused.

                  I agree, they’ve done a bangup job bringing attention to the ongoing fight against jaywalking.

                  Against oil, not so much.