I’m not sure there were opportunities to fact check harris and the one point where trump said it was disproven the “fact check” basically takes trump at his word that trump wasnt talking about the nazis.
Which is a black mark on snopes for allowing an unprovable statement as a fact by a guy known to lie and walk back his missteps.
“The press is so dishonest in this country, it’s amazing,” Trump said. “Now, I didn’t mind because frankly I was pretty sure that’s what they would do. CNN was much more honorable—the debate we had with Biden was a much more honorably run debate.”
I felt better about the one where I creamed the senile old guy. The one where a younger, Black, WOMAN was awful.
He also said that the full context of his quotes on Charlottesville make it clear that what he’d said was “absolutely perfect.”
It was a perfect phone call!
Nevertheless, Trump claimed the evening had gone well for him. “I’ve been told I’m a good debater,” he said. “I think it was one of my better debates. Maybe my best debate.”
You’re right, you’ve never done better. Way to go, shithead.
“I’ve been told I’m a good debater,” he said. “I think it was one of my better debates. Maybe my best debate.”
Hmm, this is suspiciously good grammar.
He’s a Master Debater
He is steering and planting the thoughts of his believers.
“Maybe my best debate.”
Some person: He must have done really well if he thinks about it that way.
Should have been locked up ages ago, but seeing him this humiliated almost makes up for it.
Oh no. No, no we have a long way to go before anything makes up for it.
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Eat a dick, cunt.
well, cunts tend to do just that
Vagina dentata that dick, cunt?
It drives me crazy knowing that anyone takes this absolute clown seriously.
What’s even sadder is that he would 100% be president right now if he didn’t constantly stick his foot in his own mouth.
Everything about Trump makes him one of the most awful human beings alive, and yet he would be the leader of the free world if he wasn’t also incredibly thin-skinned & stupid.
He was gifted a nonpartisan crisis in an election year. He is so dimwitted and inept that he turned it into a wedge issue. He couldn’t handle epidemiologists getting attention he wanted.
Repeat the lies early and often and the general population will eat it up.
Carlin’s quotes about average American voter still rings true today.
This was one reason I appreciated Harris repeating “Project 2025” several times. There’s likely voters that didn’t know about it, and it’s possible her saying it enough got it in their heads to look it up. Can you tell I’m trying to be optimistic?
It drives me crazy that no one asks him normal ass questions. Like: can you elaborate? Can you point at it on a map? Do you know what that word means?
I demand the shitgibbon be shutdown. Did you hear me? I demanded it!
I declare it!
No mic should ever be placed near this man again.
Pence: Please do not place me near this man again.
The fly: do it. I’m hungry
He’s such a whiner.
The first time the moderators countered his obvious dog-whistle lies I was absolutely blown away. You could have knocked me over with a feather. Then I started laughing and didn’t stop.
The correction was really well done and completely natural by both moderators, I almost didn’t register what happened. Love to see it.
That really showed what a shitbag outfit CNN has become under it’s new conservative ownership group. They are a wolf in sheep’s clothing now.
I would like to see any organization actually have journalists or actually do journalism. But my definition of journalism is different from this sociopath’s, like I take telling the truth as an assumption.
Al Jazeera is pretty good with international news. Be skeptical of their middle east news though.
Also Democracy Now. Amy Goodman is still out there trying to break stories.
There are only a handful of journalists left. Two that come to mind are Pam and Russ Martens of WSOP (Wall Street On Parade) who have been speaking truth to power for decades but remain obfuscated like other journalists with integrity.
Obviously these are financial journalists and we need many like them and their courage in the political and world news spheres.
They are out there, but they are the very few.
Too bad they let him continue to lie about the thing they just fact checked, let him talk beyond his allotted time, reapond when it wasn’t his turn, and shut down Harris the one time she tried to respond out of turn.
The moderators crossed an extremely low bar on fact checking last night, but did everything else the same way they always have.
I support it. They have a job to let viewers know that the radical information is not true, and they should not take it as valid information to get worked up over.
It’s the difference between Trump sounding like a maniac vs exposing a controversy. They don’t need to stop him from sounding like a maniac. They just need to clarify that he is, in fact, a maniac.
It’s complicated, since the Harris campaign wanted him to have more opportunities to ramble, interrupt and get mad. They were very much counting on him being himself and comparing that to someone who can speak in coherent sentences without getting mad.
A well executed Batman Gambit in real life.
My thoughts as well. Trump did himself no favours with undecideds and independents with his inane rambling rants. For the most part, Harris just seemed content to use her time to press him and let him make a fool out of himself, with only a couple of instances popping up when she seemed to want to interject but couldn’t.
In this case his extra time actually hurt him.
He shut her down twice. The one time was really over the line. But I loved the moderator saying there is no place in the USA that executing babies is legal. Wtf, 9 month abortions? Lol
My mom fully believes this shit for some reason. She believes mothers carry to 9 months and just abort out of inconvenience, and that doctors don’t work to keep the fetus alive out of the womb if possible. She shares pictures with descriptions of the procedures with zero sources beyond Christian crisis pregnancy centers. Or just Christians.
And she wonders why I started exhibiting signs of PTSD before I was even six.
All his talking didn’t help him at all. I don’t think the Harris side cared about him self-destroying his image and giving lots for the talk shows later to make fun of.
It gives him a platform. End of story. Every single minute he talks it allows for normalization.
But to who? His cult? They are lost, stop trying to save them. B
This works for some things, but it’s like the parable of the boiled toad: you need to push on the edges of truth, not come out guns blazing with “post-birth abortions”, “Immigrants eating family pets”, and “Democrats wanted Roe v Wade overturned also”
It’s too late for that. We deal with him or he gets back in the White House.
Donald’s whimpering rebuttal of “but but I saw it on TV” objectively did the most damage to his image of everything I have seen to date.
I was watching it through Dylan Burns stream on it and he sayed trump sounded like an angry five year old.
Yeah this is one of those typos that you can hear ^^
You misspelled refuttal. Orange you embarrassed?
I’d say it is when he suggested migrants were eating people’s pets 😅
That was all part of the same response and fact check sequence.
The thing is, he looked visibly confused. As if he truly believes that the things he sees on TV are absolute truth.
What was it? “The people on TV said it!”
He sounded exactly like my grandmother with dementia the day I walked into her room to her freaking out about the postman stealing her cheerios.
Especially from the guy who made the phrase “Fake news” famous.
He’s definitely sundowning.
It still blows me away that he managed to take over the term “fake news”.
It was introduced as a way to explain how social media was leading gullible people into MAGA, but he turned it into a term for persecution of MAGA by conventional media.
It was actually an incredible move. I can’t think of anything he’s spun that well since 2016.
I’m pretty sure Hitler or Mussolini popularized the term (Hitlers translation was closer to "lying press) originally to discredit journalists, socialists, scientists… Etc. Trump has been reported to have Mein Kampf on his bedside table, but I need to actually read it myself to confirm how much of his playbook comes from it. He for sure targets vulnerable, innocent groups (immigrants, women, LGBTQ, etc.). He eroded public infrastructure, attempting to privatize it where he could.
Not Mein Kampf, it was a book of translated Hitler speeches.
My favorite moment from the whole thing was when Harris offhandedly mentioned that his rallies were bad, and he spent a full minute of his rebuttal time insisting that his rallies were awesome, then started arguing with the moderators when they fact checked him. You could see that that, above everything else that went on, rankled him. It really highlighted the narcissism.
The highlight for me for the whole debate was not Trump’s pet-eating outburst but the perfect setup and execution Harris did to bait him into that unhinged rant instead of talking about immigration.
She “invites” people to go to Trump rallies. She follows up the point about people leaving rallies early with a note along the lines of: you’re about to watch Trump not talk about you. Sure enough, he fell into the trap, and Trump talked about what he cared about most at that moment.
Go back and watch Trump. His eyeballs pop when she says attendees are leaving out of exhaustion and boredom.
It took him like 2 minutes to do everything she said, right in front of him, that he would
This. He sounded like a 5yo.
That’s insulting to 5-year-olds. Many of them can actually complete sentences before going on to the next thought.
Yeah the baby executioner bit was gold.
THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS
Link?
Didn’t he say he won the debate? What’s he mad about?
Crying 45 keeps on crying. The orange shitstain should shove off to Moscow and take all the MAGATs with him.
i would really like to see someone successfully debate MAGA republicans that trump is unfit for office by reason of either, delusion, or insanity. That or concede that they are either, fascist, or equally deluded and insane.
The line of reasoning is very simple. It piggybacks off of the J6 report, which lines up the argument that there is no world in which trump knew that what he was doing on J6 was legal. The only presented alternative is that the entirety of the federal government is corrupt, and somehow only trump knows this, which is obviously indefensible. So it must follow that trump is either delusional, and unfit for office, or genuinely insane, and also unfit for office.
Therefore, if you don’t think that trump is insane, and unfit for office, you are either, fascist, or insane and equally delusional. There is no alternative reality, because any alternative reality hinges completely on the concept of the entire federal government being entirely corrupt. Which is unfalsifiable and arguably, not possible.
If you support trump in 2024, you are one of three things, stupid, delusional, or fascist. There is no other option. This is categorically provable.
if conservatives will concede this point, i will agree with them on the take of biden being unfit for office, however they will literally never cede this, as they are fucking delusional.
Don’t worry Mr. Orange, I called emergency services for you.
That vile bitch! “You were talking about the economy!” Let him say what the fuck he was talking about. Take off the baby gloves.
Nope. Won’t do it. He wins and your ratings go up.
No matter how tempting, if this asshole wins I will not click a single post or video passed around by Fox News.
