I mean, Abc basically shat on the terms of the debate. Structure and muting went out the window in the first ten minutes and then they started fact checking.
I have no complaints and think it favored both sides but it was definitely hinky.
He looked like a doddering old man who didn’t know where he was or what he was saying.
They didn’t do great, the RNC should be investigated for elder abuse.
Trump is a psychopath that should not be allowed to drive a car let alone a country.
His presidency, and presence in politics at all beyond the local kook level, is a strong indication that the US is a failed state circling the toilet.
US is not a failed state, that’s just factually untrue and is just emotional storytelling.
The DNC has rigged three primaries in a row, yet has continued to struggle against the same crook that can’t form a sentence. It doesn’t fit the exact definition of “failed state”, but do we need to split that hair?
The DNC is not the state.
Try again. Or, please, don’t.
I did not say the DNC is the state. I am suggesting that the way the two-party system has developed is an indication of a failed state.
The two-party system developed practically immediately after the formation of the country. Even the parties in Congress under Washington were beginning to form into two parties before the second President was elected.
There’s a reason for this, and it’s primarily because the constitution, while certainly a step forward in many respects from shitty ass monarchy, was written by fallible, flawed people who could not anticipate the consequences of some of the decisions they were making with regards to governmental structure. Other countries, using founding documents written after the late 1700s and governments formulated afterwards, were likely able to put the US’s example to good use and able to analyze what should have been done differently.
We could hypothetically pull the country out of the “two-party system” rut, but it requires a large degree of change to how we conduct elections, and may even require constitutional amendments. A more pragmatic approach is likely to build a movement in local politics with a third party, and then slowly use the accumulated power upwards to change things via state governments, and then finally change the federal system.
Does he actually know how to drive anything bigger than a golf cart?
I actually looked it up recently because I had the thought that he’s never driven a car in his life and has just been driven around. Apparently there’s a video of him driving his Rolls Royce or something online though.
Edit: I looked it up again and he’s driving his rolls Royce and listening to Taylor Swift. Man, this guy is just a walking contradiction, huh?
Does pretending to drive a semi count?
“Vroom, vroom!”
A treat for those who missed it:
Trump Got To Sit In A Big Boy Truck Because Today Was A Special Day!
That is so much better than the one random image I Googled.
Ask him to honk the horn.
He’s his own caricature.
Trump is a psychopath that should not be allowed to drive a car let alone a country.
Good news then, presidents and former presidents aren’t allowed to drive themselves. So at least we won’t have to deal with Trump claiming that deep state operatives switched the gas and brake peddles.
Guessing he isn’t allowed to drive a car - I remember Al Gore complaining about how they never got to drive any more after the VP, as the secret service wouldn’t let them.
honestly he probably didn’t drive even before being president. having a chauffeur is a status symbol for the ultra wealthy and he has to keep up appearances.
Helps cover up the dementia too
I’m sure they still let him drive the golf cart
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Now that’s a poll I can get behind.
Yeah, but he has millions of shares he paid nothing for.
He’s going to be the only one who doesn’t lose money, because he paid nothing for his stock.
Even if it’s $0.01 the day he can sell, it’s all profit.
If he can sell all his 115M shares for $0.72 (doubtful) he’ll have just enough to pay off E. Jean Carroll.
What?
It’s at 15.49, I think he can sell a week or two after the election. It’ll keep falling, but he has a financial incentive to push it more and more in the run up to the election.
He went back to Twitter for the views, but immediately after the election he’ll pivot back to pumping it full time.
Id be surprised if it’s under $5. Someone that wants a favor could buy millions of it, hoping that if more do it or the rubes buy in, it would be a bribe that actually made money.
Classic pyramid scheme shit. The more that do it, the more others will because the price goes up.
I’d be surprised if it’s less than this by the time trump can sell, and if he loses I think it’ll really jump up immediately after the election
Someone has to buy the stock that he sells. It doesn’t magically turn into money cause it has a listed value that day.
Sure, there can be some money laundering and foreign “investments” but the SEC really doesn’t like stock manipulation.
The listed value is more or less the amount currently being offered by people who want to buy the stock. So if it has a listed value then he can sell it.
If there’s a single copy of a comic book that sells for $1,000 that doesn’t mean you can sell 100 of them for that price.
If there’s a couple dozen shares of a stock selling for $15, that doesn’t mean there’s enough buyers to pay for a million of them at that price.
If trump dumps all his shares, the stock price will crash, and eventually there won’t be ANYONE to buy the stock and the price will be effectively $0.
Comic books don’t have market makers. Stocks generally do.
They act as intermediaries so individual stock buyers don’t have to find individual stock sellers. Which means the companies that agree to act as market makers are always willing to buy a stock and always willing to sell it. When buyers and sellers don’t balance, they adjust the stock price until they do (always making a slight profit on arbitrage).
Market makers aren’t idiots. They’re not going to provide liquidity to allow someone to dump thousands of lots of this piece of shit listing on them.
The “adjust the price until they do” part is the piece of your comment that’s relevant here.
The SEC doesn’t do jack shit about anything. The SEC are toothless pretend watchdogs created by and staffed by former stock marketers who exist for the sole purpose of making the public think there is oversight and accountability.
It is the stock market version of the police’s internal affairs.
Tell that to Martha Stewart and Elon Musk.
SEC isn’t a savior, but they do enforce the law when it’s blatant.
Martha Stewart’s case was two decades ago. How many people have served jail time for fraud based on the SEC since then?
Musk got the regular slap on the wrist pretend punishment that the SEC does to appear legitimate. He also continues to openly manipulate stocks with no further accountability.
How many people have served jail time for fraud based on the SEC since then?
are you just assuming zero, or do you actually keep up with this stuff?
just a brief search led me to these which were all published literally yesterday:
I don’t assume it is zero, but I assume it is far fewer than it should be since Musk has been openly manipulating the market without any punishment for years.
It’ll definitely cause the price to drop and will probably destroy the company’s selling so much at once.
But it happens all the time.
And trump supporters are 100% dumb enough to “buy the dip”.
“buy the dip”.
HODL the bag
So the debate was rigged to make you look bad, but you did great at the debate? Which is it?
Don’t expect internal consistency from the guy who says media can’t be trusted and is fake news, but immigrants are eating people’s dogs and cats because someone said it on TV.
Kamala stole my ideas on the economy. She’s a Marxist. She stole my ideas though.
How it started:
She has no plan. Look at her plan. She has no plan.
How it’s going:
I have the concepts of a plan.
“10% of a plan”
“She doesn’t even have the concept of a plan!”
Immediately after she gave details of her plan.
If she won the election, the day after that election, go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead. Fossil fuel will be dead. We’ll go back to windmills and we’ll go back to solar, where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out. You ever see a solar plant? By the way, I’m a big fan of solar
-Smart Man DJTHe just can’t stop tilting at windmills.
Don’t forget the poor poor desert soil he’s so concerned about… Lol yes noted conservationist Donald drill baby drill Trump…
Right after she pointed out all of the times she actually supported fracking.
What else will you do with a desert? Build cities that will dry up more lakes and rivers? Just cover the whole fucking desert in solar and power the country. The guy is so dense.
Idk maybe grow a crazy amount of alfalfa and sell it overseas? What? What do you mean the desert has water issues?
Edit: oh lol I should have read more replies
There’s a lot more territory for solar if we just set it up all along our Interstate system. We could just let the desert be desert, with its fragile ecosystem intact. The land under the freeways is already fucked. Thinking ahead, we would need to design it to reroute the power if a big crash takes out some panels.
Even better, you can grow some Alfalfa to sell to Saudi Arabia!
Even betterer, also grow some algae for biofuel
He did great at making himself look bad.
Debate was rigged to make me look bad. But jokes on them, I looked bad all on my own.
Checkmate liburals
This is how we know that he thinks he lost.
The Harris campaign should use this comment.
I think some of RFK’s brain worms🪱 slid into a ripe new vessel
“Poor little guy starved to death.”
ripe…?
Relative to RFK, maybe
Full of sugar and fat?
Fermented then!
Alcoholic brain worm confirmed
As in cheese
new?
Always double down, never admit fault.
In that way, he’s predictable.
Apparently Trump thinks his hurt feelings are a bread-and-butter issue for most Americans.
They are for half of them.
It’s nowhere near half.
It is near half when weighted for electoral college.
dude was fired and now he’s crawling back to the same job like worm. Just find a new job dude
If he doesn’t end up as president he can’t nullify any of the affects of his legal problems.
The legal problems he brought upon himself? By actively and blatantly criming? Boy that must suck for him.
Ikr? Like, how unfair is it if we don’t let him be president to get rid of his consequences.
Last night, to my wife: “He’s going to claim ABC was rigged against him and that the debate moderators were slanted against him”
This morning:
So predictable.
I wonder what it’s like on his plane of existence? I mean, I’m sure it’s blissful to him.
Take:
- one bag of squirrels
1oz of pure cut Columbian blow
add Columbian marching powder to bag of squirrels making sure entire contents are emptied into bag and close tightly.
shake and swing bag violently, then hang from tree branch
you have now recreated the inner workings of Donald Trumps mind. Enjoy the show.
Nah i think it’s a whiplash rollercoaster existence from massive ego highs and then to extreme embarrassment and paranoia
Trump is a cum stain on america
I disagree. Cumstain would imply at least someone had a good time.
Yeah, the rich.
At this point in the disinformation campaign, there is no way to claim anything but absolute victory. Any missteps must be unfair treatment by an outsider. Any possible room for improvement is weakness, so it must just be lying press or unfair treatment.
The thing is, they no longer need to offer evidence for any such claims. Their supporters are so conditioned, they have the same initial reactions and believe Trump can do no wrong.
Never play chess with a pigeon, they shit on the board and knock ove randomr pieces claiming they won…
