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  • Die4Ever@programming.dev
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    8 days ago

    It won’t come close to a 4080 so that isn’t a sensible comparison. I think it’s estimated to be slower than the regular 4070.

    IDK why you mention 4k and max settings and high frame rates, PS5 Pro won’t do these things. It’s not even twice as fast as the regular PS5 which in many games drops below 1080p 60fps medium settings.

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      8 days ago

      Which is why I said it’s wait and see.

      The PS5 already does 4K and higher framerates, for at least most of their optimised first-party games, I’d just expect a Pro version to handle it better on top of more traytracing, otherwise what even would be the point of upgrading for such a high price.

      A 4070 is still like €600+, if you want more advanced raytracing stuff you’ll have to go for 4080 and up, which means easily exceeding €1000 for a GPU.

      This is why I compared the PS5 Pro to the 4080, because they claim to do advanced raytracing on the Pro. Which is why I think a price of €800, which sits between that of a 4070 and 4080, is quite reasonable. People want high visual fidelity on 4K and high framerates, but still expect to pay far less than high-end PC hardware, I don’t think that’s a realistic expectation.

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        8 days ago

        Watch Digital Foundry, very very few AAA PS5 games can do 4k AND 60fps (which is what I assume you mean by “high framerates”, although 60 isn’t really that high it’s just mid). Probably none of those are doing ray tracing at the same time. Most PS5 games have upscaling enabled at all times because they’re rendering at much lower internal resolutions. PS5 Pro is not even twice as powerful, it’s not going to be capable of pushing 4x as many pixels per second. There’s a reason why they’re still talking about their upscaling algorithms.

        “Advanced ray tracing” is not a technical term that exists it’s just marketing speak. And obviously they couldn’t say path tracing because they won’t be doing much of that like a 4070 or 4080 can do.