Same reason you don’t see tankies in this thread.
Hey @davel@davel@lemmy.ml , how do you feel about this, being pro-Russian and all?
Translation: He wants Russia to win the War and for America to be signed over to the Kremlin, but he knows he can’t say that aloud
That’s why he’s nothing more than vatnik kompromat.
He knows he can’t say Russia but he doesn’t want Ukraine to win so he does this.
I don’t know why he can’t say Russia. It’s the obvious truth, his swallowers - sorry, his followers - would lap it up no matter what, and it’s no more or less insane than anything else he says.
The are more apt to believe obvious lies than obvious truths.
It was obvious as hell that he wants Russia to win.
Yea, what a POS he is for pretty much admitting this. Not that we didn’t know this already.
All we have to do is make him president elect! We don’t even have to inaugurate him!
You’ll get all the Logan act violations you seek if you act now!
This gets me - if he’s that fucking clever then he should have ended it by now. And he says he’s good friends with Zelensky, how? Do they go out drinking together? They’ve probably spoken twice. America should be ashamed of Trump the Liar.
America should be ashamed of Trump the Liar.
Americans capable of feeling shame are. Unfortunately, his base is incapable of feeling shame, so there’s no effect there.
They’re capable of feeling shame, just not for good reasons. Like, they can feel ashamed of thinking a trans person is hot.
he will allow Russia to win yes, in exchange for favours probably
What makes you think he hasn’t already been given the favor years or decades ago and how he’s the one repaying it and he’ll get nothing in return?
Mostly the fact that Trump never pays his debts.
I have to wonder if the potential for accidentally falling out of a window goes any way into affecting the way he approaches certain debts.
Has he not done enough already for that wretched, glorified petrol station they call a country.
He is in a LOT of debt, financially and politically, to Russia. And he also is desperate to win, because if he loses he’s going to jail. He’ll do anything Putin wants him to
Of course he does, he’s a bought man.
Not only this, but they rephrased the question asking if he thought it would be in America’s best interest to win the war and he declined to answer again…
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Fuck you
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What’d I miss?
Trolling
2 hours old account. Hey Russians, try harder.
Just came to agree, fuck Ukraine. All these drones have no real knowledge of that situation literally on the other side of the planet.
Real knowledge: Ukraine was invaded by Russia.
Contest that fact.
Ok? The US has invaded more countries than I care to find a list of. These invasions were supported by a majority here and believed to be justified. We invaded countries on the opposite side of the world. Russia invaded their neighbors, basically their extended family, and we’re supposed to get involved and support one side or the other? The only reason it’s a big issue is because it’s pushed my certain political and powerful people. I’m willing to bet 50% of the money “sent to Ukraine” just ends up in the pockets of politicians and leeches here.
Nice whataboutism, but I have the perfect counter: I don’t support the US and it’s history of invading other countries.
Similarly, I don’t support Russia invading Ukraine. I don’t gamble so you can continue your “bets”, but I’d love to hear how supporting someone who is defending themselves is wrong.
If someone breaks into your home and you fight for your life, I support you in that endeavor.
You all need to stop claiming “whataboutism.” It is called a comparison, and if you supported it or not, it was a good comparison.
That’s just Whataboutism, you know it
Comparing for what reason?
I’m not y’all, I’m me. And no that was literally whataboutism.
“[What about the fact that] US has invaded more countries than I care to find a list of.”
Yeah what about it?
I don’t support those invasions and them happening doesn’t justify the Russo-Ukrainian invasion. You chose to deflect and then bet about where the money was going, for some reason.
Comparing isn’t “deflecting.” The fact that you also compared how you also didn’t support the US invasions to the Russia invasion kind of proves it was a fair and relevant comparison. YOU should consider calling some things "whataboutism"s is sometimes “deflecting”.
Basically most of it ends in the hands of the military industrial complex.
It’s sad to see that the libs are just as post-truth as the magats are. The doublethink is honestly astounding. Not only is the US and NATO good (except for gaza) but it’s also evil to invade other countries that pose a threat to national security (unless the US does it). Everything Putin says is a lie and he’s Hitler and will always attack if we let him. Nato is completely harmless and a NATO armed Ukraine never was a danger to Russia except now when they managed to hold their own for so long and now shoot back into Russia after being so well armed by NATO. Why would the Russians not like NATO? Russians are Orcs because they are Nazis, except Nazis aren’t Nazi’s if they are Ukrainians. There was never any interference with e.g. the Euromaidan coup except we welcomed Ukraine into NATO and the EU with open arms and the CIA works excellent together with Ukraine intelligence services. Oppression is bad but Slava Ukraina and banning Russian is fine. Anyone who wants piece is a warmonger and Putin apologist. We are finally the good guys again! Stop the whataboutism of the entire history of US meddling and coups and illegal wars!
The historical facts are pretty clear how this conflict came about and why. It was a miscalculation - They didn’t think Russias economy could support so much arms manufacturing. They also thought China wouldn’t back Russia. But of course they did because they know they are next lol. There have been like 40 meetings between Putin and Xi Jinping and this war has brought them together. They are expanding BRICS and making new connection with the global south.
Of course this is still a win-win for the US empire and the oligarchs however this ends. They won’t let it escalate to nuclear war and the wealth transfers are massive. The only losers are the taxpayers and the Ukrainians and Russians.
Lets not talk about the insane level of greenhouse gases emitted because of this war.
Love it! Thank you for that. I have been corrected and concede. I mean damn, that was well-informed.
Thanks, I was rather agreeing with you. And the whole thing is murky with lots of disinformation and feints on both sides. You kinda have to thread a thin line between US empire, liberal, socialist and Russian propaganda to find anything. My main gripe is that the narrative on the lib side is so obviously false and constructed in a way that makes demanding diplomatic solutions impossible. It’s maddening!
Here is an interview with an Pascal Lottaz an “Ukrainian Associate Professor for Neutrality Studies” who was arrested and Amnesty International helped to get asylum in Finnland. His youtube channel features discussions with academics about current topics.
Fuck is wrong with you?
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Me and my popcorn wanna know what this guy’s deleted comments said
I feel like when Harris said that Putin would be sitting in Kyiv, Trump didn’t understand. “Why would he be in Kyiv, Putin would be at home, happier of course” because he’s taking it literally like a fucking idiot.
And yes, Trump, of course Putin would be happier with you in charge when he invaded. The Biden administration gave crucial Intel in the months leading up to the invasion and military support. Harris 100% deserves props for being involved in that.
He’d give up on Ukraine. And call it a win.
or maybe extort them again.
The Jews would have had peace if they’d just let themselves be taken to camps peacefully.
This is less funny because Russia literally did commit a holocaust in Ukraine.
“Winning the battle is worth losing the war”
(Trump, The Art of the Deal, pp. 179-181)
Yeah pretty much.
Aka appeasement. We tried it Donny. Though this time it’s Trump who wants to be dictator.
Trump doesn’t care so long as Russia keeps paying him.
“I could make a deal with Hitler to stop this war tomorrow!”
From the chapter: “Yeah, but remember that one time…”
That’s a short sentence for that many pages. I knew it was in big print, but…
It’s illustrated so his voters can understand the book
Yea, that infuriated me.
What does “win” even mean? NATO starting World War 3? Well, they’re getting there.
Da, comrade!
Vatniks gonna vatnik.
You mean Russia starting the conflict that might turn into WW III two years ago?
The conflict started more than a decade ago. Currently it’s a proxy war mostly limited to the territory of Ukraine and Russia. Other countries are in the pipeline.
Oh we know. If Russia wins, Poland is next. Russia salami slicing started in 2014 with its first annexation of part of Ukrainian.
The next target after Russia loses against NATO will be China actually. And then Iran, North Korea. But you’ll get a total nuclear exchange well before, so it’s academical.
So likely next proxy is Moldova, Romania, Georgia, Belorus. Poland is also a possibility, but not at first. Unless Belorus, but then we’re at tactical nukes stage already.
Russia was the aggressor here. Ukraines wanted to go towards the west for a better life and protection from being further invaded by Russia. Putin is of the school of thought that Ukraine isn’t real. But it is the people of Ukraine who decide that.
This war started more than a decade ago. Russian Federation only became a party some two years ago.
This was the start : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
He refused to answer any question
That’s not true, he very clearly answered that he’s stronger than Superman and smarter than Batman.
He could beat Batman for sure, especially with prep time to make a concept of a plan.
And Kamala refused to say whether babies can be aborted at 9 months. Politicians being politicians.
Was that a legit question?
The answer seems kinda obvious.
That’s an amazingly stupid take from someone who apparently didn’t watch the debate.
Trump claimed that babies were being aborted at 9 months and after they were born. This is a lie he repeats over and over at rallies that you apparently do watch. The moderators made it clear that that was illegal in all 50 states.
Why would Harris need to debunk something insanely stupid that the moderators already debunked?
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At the rate we’re going, it’s always too soon.
Abortions after birth?
Yeah that’s called murdering an infant.
Pls, provide the sources you obviously have on this.
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That’s a poor attempt at linking a list of school shootings.
Not what you were talking about, and not as funny as you think.
You’re kind of a shit troll.
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I would thought the “give a kid an Ar-15” would had made that obvious
We’re in a thread that’s discussing the former president of the US actually claiming shit like this, so no, there’s really nothing you could say that would “make it obvious”.
Trump kept saying abortion after 9 months, they put the baby aside and decide it’s fate. They execute the baby. And the debate just kept going on… how in hell can the debate just keep going on after that?
Sane response would be to “wait what?!” Stop everything wtf are you talking about?
The moderator answered that, because it was a moronic question to ask.
She rolled her eyes at the claim. That was enough. Only idiots who were going to vote for Trump anyway believe that.
Because it’s not a thing.
An abortion at 9 months is to remove a dead baby from the whomb (leaving it in there kills the mother too). Babies die in utero… it’s horrible but happens.
Same as with babies that are born with previously undiagnosed developmental or birth defects that turn out not to be viable… it’s horrible but it happens.
Keep messing with medical care for political reasons and more mothers and babies will die…
Noone is removing a viable baby and then killing it. But since every accusation is a confession, I’m now worried about republicans.
The only one vying for babies to be abortable at 9 months is this god fellow in the form of miscarriages.
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The one thing he can’t obvious lie about directly.
