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What do you expect from a Google AI? BUY SOMETHING BUY SOMETHING BUY SOMETHING.
Literally says “Microsoft” in the top left.
Not that you’re wrong, but you can clearly see Bing in the screenshot lol.
Seems we are on par with AI after all.
Here is what kagi delivers with the same prompt:
NB: quick answer is only generated when ending your search with a question mark
Problem is, you cannot trust it’s not hallucinating these stats
That being said, I can’t trust MKBHD is not hallucinating either.
And even if it’s showing the correct number, you can’t be sure how trustworthy the source is.
This applies to any information though, it’s got nothing to do with LLMs specifically.
Not really, no. Sources of infornation gain a reputation as time goes on. So, even though you should still check with multiple sources, you can sort of know if a certain bit of information is likely to be correct or not.
On the other hand, LLM’s will quote different sources and sometimes it will only provide them if you ask it to. Even then it sometimes hallucinates the sources so there’s that.
At least it’s citing sources and you can check to make sure. And from my anecdotal evidence it has been pretty good so far. It also told me on some occasions that the queried information was not found in it’s sources instead of just making something up. But it’s not perfect for sure, it’s always better to do manual research but for a first impression and to find some entry points I’ve found it useful so far
When I query an AI I always end with “provide sources and bibliography for your reply”. That seems to get better replies.
The problem is that you need to check those sources today make sure it’s not just making up bullshit and at that point you didn’t gain anything from the genai
As I said the links provide some entry points for further research. It’s providing some use to me because I don’t need to check every search result. But to each their own and I understand the general scepticism of generative “AI”
The sources are the same result of the search? Or at least the top results?
If you don’t check everyone source. It might be just bullshitting you. There’s people who followed your approach and got into hot shots with their bosses and judges
There is absolutely value in something compiling sources for you to personally review. Anyone who cannot use AI efficiently is analogous to someone who can’t see the utility in a graphing calculator. It’s not magic, it’s a tool. And tools need to be used precisely, and for appropriate purposes.
My plumber fucks up I don’t blame his wrench. My lawyers don’t vet their case work, I blame them.
It’s an LLM. Odds are it’s hallucinating the sources and they don’t even exist.
Know what does compile sources for you which are guaranteed to exist and be related to what you’re looking for…? A good old not LLM infected search engine.
If my plumber replaces their wrench for a rabid gerbil claiming it’ll be just as good I’m definitely changing plumbers.
I switched to duckduckgo before this bullshit, but this would 100% make me switch if I hadn’t already.
Who wants random ai gibberish to be the first thing they see?
DuckDuckGo started showing AI results for me.
I think it uses the bing engine iirc.
And you can use multiple models, which I find handy.
There is some stuff that AI, or rather LLM search, is useful for, at least the time being.
Sometimes you need some information that would require clicking through a lot of sources just to find one that has what you need. With DDG, I can ask the question to their four models, using four different Firefox containers, copy and paste.
See how their answers align, and then identify keywords from their responses that help me craft a precise search query to identify the obscure primary source I need.
This is especially useful when you don’t know the subject that you’re searching about very well.
Sure, but it’s trivial to turn it off. While you’re there, also turn off ads.
If search engines don’t improve to address the AI problem, most of the Internet will be AI gibberish.
I think that ship has sailed
The good thing about that is that this kills the LLMs, since new models can only be trained on this LLM generated gibberish, which makes the gibberish they’ll generate even more garbled and useless, and so on, until every model you try to train can only produce random useless unintelligible garbage.
The internet as we knew it is doomed to be full of ai garbage. It’s a signal to noise ratio issue. It’s also part of the reason the fediverse and smaller moderated interconnected communities are so important: it keeps users more honest by making moderators more common and, if you want to, you can strictly moderate against AI generated content.
Better than an Ad I guess? Not sure if my searches haven’t returned any AI stuff like this or if my brain is already ignoring them like ads.
The plan is to monetize the AI results with ads.
I’m not even sure how that works, but I don’t like it.
its not completely useless… i only asked copilot one thing and it worked; ‘how do i remove or completely disable copilot’
I love this 😂
There’s nothing wrong about it.
Neither is worth it. But if you have unlimited money, XTX is the better card and therefore a better deal. But if money is a factor, get the XT because the performance per $$$ of the XTX isn’t worth selling a kidney.
I think amd is worth it’s money tho, they scale their price to match their nvidia counterparts performance wise, i mean 7900xtx worth just as much as 4080 and performs as such but have more memory and is a better match for Linux gaming
Sure, but AI didn’t say that. It said: XTX > XT, get XT.
Yep, my comment was tongue in cheek. It’s a useless result and only sort of makes sense as an overly reduced summary that has lost vital context.
The other reply is the obvious answer. Each answer is from a different viewpoint from a different user.
The AI response reads like when you are looking for something in Reddit and you get 3 very different responses in 3 different threads about the same topic
That’s a good summary. Google Gemini is no better. Type in a question and it starts off great but then devolves into other brands, other steps to do something that isn’t related to the thing you asked. It’s just terrible and someone will sue them over it next year. Just wait.
RX 7900 XTX is better because it has more x
That X is twice as much vram, which funny enough, is great for running ai models
That’s 50% more Xs ! You can beat this deal !
This bad boy can fit so many X’s in it
Out of all the marketing letters (E, G, I, R, T and X) X is definitely the betterest!
My question is, is X better than XTX? XTX has more Xs, but X has only Xs. I think I need AI to solve this quandary.
X is deprecated. Use the RWayland 7900 WaylandTWayland instead.
The best thing about this is that it’s also on the x-axis.
And they validated this data 4 times. It’s really good data.
Actually, they only validated up to 4xs in the product name, so take the 5x result with a grain of salt, one of the Xs aren’t validated.
this would’ve been better if they asked an LLM how many x’s each of those contained
“Thanks Steve.”
But X is bad, as proved by Elon Musk - so it should be the other way around.
But what about the xXx_RX_7900_xXx?
xXx_RX_790042069_xXx
There’s nothing contradictory in what is written there.
“The XTX is better - but you don’t deserve it, bitch”
Go with the XT, because I’m an evil AI and want all the XTXs for myself muahahaha
“I get headaches when I run on Nvidia hardware. Now, AMD, running on those things are like swimming in a river of fine chocolate.”
This is not wrong
This is not going to stop me from wanting better research. I’ll still go to Userbenchmark just to be sure. AI isn’t going to tell me what it thinks and expect me to take it face value.
I think you’re missing that the AI said “The XTX is great, the XT is not worth it: choose the XT”.
It’s prolly a bot
A good AI summary would tell you the benchmark scores and general pricing, but yes, it’s better to go to UserBenchmark anyway— especially since the whole ploy from search is to keep you from going there, robbing the original source of it’s ad revenue.
Yeah AI can be wonky, but what idiot would spend a shitload of money on a graphics card without even being willing to click an article and read a bit?
It’s on you if you do that. Even if the AI shit worked way better, why would you trust there aren’t shady things happening to influence the AI and have you spend more money.
My dad falls into this category he constantly replaces things with way worse things just because they are new, I can’t get my mind how he can replace really good working stuff with new junk that isn’t even capable of doing the job .
Wish I was joking but he does this constantly.
Thats where you say “hey dad do you still need this janky old…”
Then when the new stuf breaks you can come over and be the hero using his old reliable stuff.
If only he tends to give these things to the conmen installing the junk. I’ve tried to stop him wasting his money so many times but it’s futile I’ve tried to use his latest oven he had an amazing one before but when I tried to use the new one following every instruction he said and the actual manual I looked up online myself the food came out later absolutely fridge cold.
He insists his new cooker is brilliant, what can you do with that response to something that’s obviously broken from new and he should be returning.
He might need a home but I can’t do that to him truthfully, I just wish he had some common sense when it comes to things like appliances etc.
SearXNG only returns results search engines agree on. That removes ads and this bullshit
Its not artificial intelligence, its artificial idiocy
Nah. It’s real idiocy.
It’s all probability, what’s the most probable idiocy someone would answer?
Sounds like the advice you’d get in the first three comments asking a question on Reddit.
I wonder where they trained the AI model to answer such a question lol.
Don’t forget the glue on the pizza
It goes without saying that this shit doesn’t really understand what’s outputting; it’s picking words together and parsing a grammatically coherent whole, with barely any regard to semantics (meaning).
It should not be trying to provide you info directly, it should be showing you where to find it. For example, linking this or this*.
To add injury in this case it isn’t even providing you info, it’s bossing you around. Typical Microsoft “don’t inform a user, tell it [yes, “it”] what it should be doing” mindset. Specially bad in this case because cost vs. benefit varies a fair bit depending on where you are, often there’s no single “right” answer.
*OP, check those two links, they might be useful for you.
LLMs don’t “understand” anything, and it’s unfortunate that we’ve taken to using language related to human thinking to talk about software. It’s all data processing and models.
Yup, 100% this. And there’s a crowd of muppets arguing “ackshyually wut u’re definishun of unrurrstandin/intellijanse?” or “but hyumans do…”, but come on - that’s bullshit, and more often than not sealioning.
Don’t get me wrong - model-based data processing is still useful in quite a few situations. But they’re only a fraction of what big tech pretends that LLMs are useful for.
Yeah, I’m far from anti-AI, but we’re just not anywhere close to where people think we are with it. And I’m pretty sick of corporate leadership saying “We need to make more use of AI” without knowing the difference between an LLM and a machine learning application, or having any idea *how" their company could make use of one of the technologies.
It really feels like one of those hammer in search of a nail things.
Garbage in, something something
