• wren@feddit.uk
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    The Māori monarchy dates back to the 19th Century, when different Māori tribes decided to create a unifying figure similar to that of a European monarch in order to try to prevent the widespread loss of land to New Zealand’s British colonisers and to preserve Māori culture. The role is largely ceremonial.

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      2 months ago

      Than she can largely ceremoniously get fucked. I don’t care why anyone deigns themselves a monarch.

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        They never felt the need to have a monarch. Now they only symbolically have one, and the aim of that was to prevent the loss of their culture.

        It’s not an actual ruling position, so your anti-monarchy sentiment really doesn’t apply here.

        What you should be mad at is that their culture was put under such a threat that they saw the need to emulate even the tiniest bit of monarchies.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māori_King_movement

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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          Really, what you can infer from their statement is that the British gave the Maori a gift by bringing them democracy.

          Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

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            I don’t see any sign of such inference. He only said that Maori felt the need to create a symbolic figurehead to counter the threat that British colonialism did put on their culture.

            I don’t know much on that topic, but I can confidently say that your answer is really far fetched.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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              I think you misunderstand the conversation chain here. The person I was responding to and I are in agreement about the original poster. I was just saying that you can infer a pro-colonialist sentiment from their ‘fuck their monarchy’ attitude.

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              I’m really not. The monarchy was a response to British colonialism. You are saying it was a bad thing because monarchies are bad. Therefore the British colonialism that the bad thing was fighting and got rid of the bad thing and replaced it with democracy must be the better alternative.

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                I’m really not. The monarchy was a response to British colonialism. You are saying it was a bad thing because monarchies are bad. Therefore the British colonialism that the bad thing was fighting and got rid of the bad thing and replaced it with democracy must be the better alternative.

                I cannot parse this.