• TheHiddenCatboy@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    And you miss my point entirely. To be clear:

    Democrats being mass murderers, or even supporting mass murder, is the old, tired bullshit I was calling out.

    It’s not true, and I don’t know how much clearer I can make that to you and your ilk. Your choice to support third parties because you believe this bullshit will get people I care about far more than Israelis and Palestinians killed because the fucking Republicans will win and dial up everything you say is bad about Democrats to fucking 11 and not only kill the people you claim to care about but also fucking kill the people I care about in this world. I’m not the only one that thinks this, which is why you get so much pushback here. I hope the strong language and the note about my Black Bisexual Pagan Goth Wife all the BS artists pushing ‘pick Third Party to check Genocidal JoeKamala’ are putting into the line of fire will get through to you. This choice you’re advocating here is gonna get my wife killed, and I’m not going to meekly stand by quietly while you push this nonsense!

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      If you don’t care about Palestinian children being slaughtered right now, by democratic action and inaction, why should I care about what might happen to your family? I have very little power about any of this. What I do have, is human empathy and some fundamental principles that I try very hard to never compromise. I don’t look forward to the future either, but I won’t be blackmailed into overlooking support of genocide.

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        2 months ago

        So, because we don’t do exactly what you want, you will put Blacks, Hispanics, Gays, Transgenders, Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Asians, and a whole host of other people here in the USA under a Republican Fascist Theocracy, which not only will harm those people, but also legitimately harm the people you say you care about more far more than they are being harmed now, and you wonder why you get so many negative votes and comments.

        I categorically renounce and denounce your claim that Democrats are genocidal. This bullshit is all on Netanyahu and Hamas, not on innocent Israelis or Palestinians or the Democrats who aren’t even in control of a damn thing in Israel. Anyone who listens to you over me is a damn fool. You vote whoever the fuck you want, but I’m still going to call you out as a fake supporter of Palestine as you scream how you can’t vote for “Genocidal Democrats” because you’re gonna get everyone you say you support and a whole bunch more actually killed with your vote. And with that, I’m done with you.

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            2 months ago

            Nobody in the Democratic party supports Genocide.

            They support the ability of Israel to exist and defend itself.

            The problem is that Bibi intentionally misuses that support and the Democrats are too spineless to call him out on it.

            That’s not the same as going “Oh, yes, please, take our support and kill as many people as you can with it!”

            That’s the Trump doctrine.

            https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

            “They have to get it done. Get it over with and get it over with fast because we have to – you have to get back to normalcy and peace.”

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              2 months ago

              I don’t care what the dem leadership says about it, nearly as much as I care what they do about it. That the Biden admin and the rest of the dem leadership have real power to stop Israel, yet don’t do it is materially the same thing whether they wring their hands about it or not. Maybe the confusion is around the word “support”. I don’t mean it in the sense of like, thoughts and prayers. I mean “support” in the sense of send offensive weapons, block any hostile measures by the UN and run interference on public demonstrations against your genocide. Plenty of dems fit the second meaning. The first meaning is irrelevant.