• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    I’m fairly certain the Democratic platform is to protect human rights.

    *offer void for Palestinians and trans people.

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      19 days ago

      Oh so Democrats are adopting policies to intentionally harm teams people now? To you not campaigning on something automatically means the candidate will work against that thing?

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        19 days ago

        Oh so Democrats are adopting policies to intentionally harm teams people now?

        They came around on immigration. They’ll come around on trans rights. Wonder who’s next.

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          What is the cost of trans to society? Because there is in fact a cost to not keeping a minimum of control over how many people and who can immigrate to a country, so it’s perfectly normal to want people to get in through the regular process instead of jumping a wall.

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            19 days ago

            You’ve adopted Republican talking points about immigration. You’ll do the same with trans people.

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              It’s not a Republican talking point, it’s a realistic talking point. Just like you don’t give birth without the State knowing about it so they know who lives where and is entitled to what, you don’t want people immigrating without knowing about it and filtering the people coming in to catch the few that shouldn’t be allowed in the country at all.

              Progressive parties all over the world have the same point of view, immigration needs to happen but it needs to be done correctly.

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                It’s not a Republican talking point

                It 100% is. Which Republican talking points are you gonna adopt when (not if, WHEN) Democrats show their true colors to trans people like they have to the undocumented?

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                  19 days ago

                  Show me one country with a progressive party where they’ve just opened their border to anyone and everyone

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                    19 days ago

                    No one asked you to summarize Republicans’ talking points about the border. I’m surprised you didn’t spell it “boarder” like they do.

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      19 days ago

      Can you explain? My impression is that democrats have fervently (and often to their own detriment) defended trans people from republicans. What are you talking about?

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        19 days ago

        Thread’s about how the party ignored the rights of trans people. And I’ll notice you ignored what I said about Palestinians. Human rights also includes foreign policy.

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          Any defense of human rights is a defense of trans rights. I’m not sure why you find this confusing, or you want these rights to be enumerated or something for pandering?

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            Any defense of human rights is a defense of trans rights.

            Hogwash. It’s completely possible to defend human rights for some and not for others. Which is why you keep ignoring what I keep saying about Palestinians. How are their human rights holdin’ up? How are Democrats’ defense of human rights a defense for Palestinians’ rights?

            Oh yeah, they’re selling weapons for the genocide of Palestinians. Turns out, “any defense of human rights” is not the same thing as “defending all humans’ rights.”

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              I didn’t ignore what you said about the genocide in Gaza, although it’s a red herring. Scroll up, use your eyeballs to read.

              Unlike you, I’d rather win the election because my concern for human rights, including trans rights, isn’t performative.

              This is the last time I’m replying to your comments since I can’t tell if you’re a Russian bot or something. Sorry.

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                Ok, so you want me to be happy with a party that is concerned with human rights for only some people.

                If your support for human rights does not include Palestinians, how can anyone trust that it includes trans people without some indicator?

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                  Do they need to mention every single group whose rights they want to protect or are you able to read between the lines and look at the policies Democrat States have adopted these past 4 years vs Republican States?

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                    I do not trust Democrats not to move to the right, as they do so every chance they have. Failure to address things like trans rights specifically means they’re the next group under the bus.