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  • Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I don’t understand why presidential candidates love talking about things that would take an act of congress. Unless congress gets filled with more progressives, this isn’t going to happen, even other Dems will oppose it.

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      2 months ago

      If Obama didn’t push for ACA, we would not be at this point we are now. Even if he did not succeed to get everyone on board, he moved the needle. The conversion is steering in the right direction.

      And like the other replier said, the president sets the guidance for congress and their party. They make it clear what they want to pass and what won’t pass, then congress will work towards those goals/ compromises. Ex, If the president clearly indicates she is pro choice, any anti abortion legislation is going to be vetoed so no one is spending political capital trying to push for it, grandstand aside.

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        2 months ago

        It’s one thing to say what you stand for, it’s another thing entirely to say you will make something happen. This is what makes people apathetic in voting because it feels like they make promises they have no intention on keeping. Harris supports codifying abortion and I’m all fucking here for it but she has no power to get that through congress, only to talk it up and not veto it.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Btw, this entire time you seem to have not noticed this article is over five years old and Kamala doesn’t support M4A, or any of her somewhat progressive stances from back then…

          This is what makes people apathetic in voting

          Yes.

          People were moderately enthused about Kamala when we assumed she hadn’t done a 180 on everything people liked about her.

          Her recent moves to the right will depress turnout.

        • just_another_person@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Again, you’re getting hung up on the wrong thing. You seem to misunderstand what the actual role of the President is, which is mostly administrative. If you’ve been thinking every President has been doing things themselves, you’ve completely missed what the job is.

          The actual governing powers of the role is almost non-existent aside from specific Executive Powers which have only come into existence in recent history, and are constantly assaulted by the minority party and courts.

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      2 months ago

      Because their entire job is to communicate a plan and guidance for where the country should be going, not to unilaterally make it happen.

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        2 months ago

        While that is true, it’s also not true. There are more times a president has communicated a plan with guidance and it never went anywhere.

        Biden promised minimum wage increases and student loan forgiveness. Neither have happened and not because he hasn’t tried but because he is relatively powerless to actually make that happen.

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          2 months ago

          Biden promised… student loan forgiveness. Neither have happened

          While your point generally stands, you can’t say Biden hasn’t forgiven student debt.

          The Biden-Harris administration today announced the cancelation of another $7.4 billion of federal student debtaffecting more than 200,000 borrowers. This brings the total amount of canceled student debt by the administration to $153 billion for around 4 million borrowers. This time around, debt relief will reach debtors enrolled in the SAVE plan, in other income-driven repayment plans and those receiving Public Service Loan Forgiveness.

          (Italics mine)

          $153 Billion is a hell of a lot of debt to cancel, especially doing it in the face of a party trying to stop it.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            While your point generally stands, you can’t say Biden hasn’t forgiven student debt.

            Most of what has been “forgiven” should have been forgiven long ago but the people in charge of those programs was the loan servicers who had a financial incentive to not let the government pay it because interest would stop.

            Biden then “forgave” the inflated costs rather than having the government only pay what they should have

            This drastically inflated the amount forgiven, but really is just funneling tax payer money to the loan servicers while helping the least amount of Americans for the money

            Our money.

            That we pay in taxes.

            The people most impressed with Biden, tend to be the shortest on details for so e reason.

        • just_another_person@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Yes, but that has nothing to do with the job, and everything I do with all the other moving pieces of politics.

          I was just answering your question. It is the job of the President to communicate these movements in guidance, gain support, then pass the needed laws to make it happen, though they are only in the communications roles. That is the answer to your question, and that’s why they talk about it.