Donald Trump fired off an angry middle-of-the-night attack on “highly overrated Jewish Governor” Josh Shapiro after he spoke out against the former president at the Democratic National Convention on Wednesday night.

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    2 months ago

    My parents seem like normal somewhat rational people. They are still planning to vote for Trump. Please stop with this “we’ve already won” shit. It can only cost us the win. Go vote. It’s far from guaranteed. It honestly looks to be pretty close to an even race right now.

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      1. Your parents are not “somewhat rational people” if they are voting for a hateful bigot and rapist who is openly compromised by foreign powers and openly talking about how people only have to vote “one more time”
      2. Please read posts before responding to them
      3. We have popular republicans speaking at the DNC and getting cheered. There was a LOT of stupidity about Biden (“He is anti-Palestine so we should let trump win instead!”) but he is gone and there is no time to make a proper attack against Kamala. trump is not going to sway additional voters and is already losing “moderates” who are desperate for anything other than a rapist lunatic who would love Gilead if he knew how to read.

      That is why the focus is on strong arming his party and elected officials to remind them that he led a literal fucking lynch mob against the last republican who crossed him by… not shitting on the constitution on Jan 6.

      if trump wins it is not going to be by a popular vote (it was never going to be that). It is not even going to be by barely squeaking by on the electoral college. It is going to be by getting close and then using outright theft and violence to get the rest of the way.

      Which is why, even if someone is too stupid to understand that there are down ballot candidates who matter just as much (arguably moreso), they still need to vote. Because we need a landslide so that there are no elected (or military…) officials who decide that they want to be on “the winning team” and defy the will of the people. And that is who trump is campaigning to at this point.

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        Almost half the country will vote for the orange ape. Don’t other this guy’s parents. If everyone voted the country wouldn’t be in this situation anyway. Take 40% out of the voting pool (not even counting voter suppression) and the ill-informed will vote alongside the hyper-informed.

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          His parents are actively supporting a bigoted rapist who wants to destroy the country and become king.

          They deserve some other-ing.

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            That tribal rubbish is how we got into this bullshit in the first place. We need to reach out into their community, not declare fellow Americans outlaws.

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              Yes, the real problem is the people who don’t respect others right to… decide that people deserve to be persecuted for the color of their skin or what they have between their legs.

              Fuck off with that. I someone is supporting a violent bigoted rapist then they SHOULD be a fucking outlaw.

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                I agree that Trump is evil. But in a democracy, people are permitted to vote how they like. That the fucking point of it. If your view prevails don’t complain if the other side gets in and decides to ‘other’ you. You have to be fine with that, because that’s what you are promoting.

                I don’t know if you have heard the British singer, Billy Bragg? He’s quite famous as a anti-Tory lefty. Great singer too. He wrote a song called ‘Full English Brexit’ and it was quite compassionate about trying to understand his ideological enemies . These people are being hurt by late stage capitalism. They can be uneducated, low information and bewildered. Hucksters have been taking advantage of their weaknesses for generations. Othering them will not change their mind. Reaching out is your only hope. Harris has that capacity if she gets a chance. I’m not a huggy huggy hippie, but this problem will not go away with more hate. That’s been done for nine years now and the other guys are better at mindless hate than we are.

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                  I am not talking about othering people because they have different opinions about capital gains taxes or whether the local high school should have money to rebuild their stadium.

                  I am talking about a rapist who led a violent insurrection and a party who actively talks about violence against his opponents. That is not democracy. That is fascism in the making.

                  And people are permitted to vote how they like. Someone could get out there and run on a platform of “little boy dicks are awesome”. That doesn’t mean they deserve to be accepted into society because they actively are not part of society at that point.

                  Freedom of Speech is the right to say stuff. it is not the right to not be judged for it.

                  And all this “we have to meet in the middle” bullshit? Again, let’s do that for socioeconomic issues. There is no fucking middle for basic human rights. Unless your idea is that trans people can only breathe every other day. And women are only allowed autonomy of their body if they can get an appointment before noon?

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                    Your are misrepresenting my position. I am not suggesting that we “meet in the middle”. I’m say that if their ideas suck, attack their ideas.

                    Furthermore, I understand your position and have respect for it. I was there too. We need to promote and communicate better. Harris’s version will actually lift these same people, but they just don’t understand that because of the GOP’s and related Media’s poison.

                    Or,just continue to go down the mindless road of hate, that seems to be working splendidly. Anyway, thanks for the discussion!