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  • dwemthy@lemdro.idEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Bet there’s a lot of overlap between people who want to leave it up to the states and people who think the civil war was about states rights

    • worldwidewave@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      The most restrictive states are also the most gerrymandered. In the places where your representative democracy is the weakest, your voice is the most muzzled by the efforts of the state itself, they’ve decided that they’re going to take some of your rights away.

      Fuck that, we need national abortion protection laws. Without them, the suffering grows with your poverty. The rich will find a way to get to NY/CA/Canada/wherever they need to.

  • OneStepAhead@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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    2 months ago

    How the question is asked isn’t stated as far as I can tell. There are a LARGE number of the “R”s who don’t want it left up to the states because they want a national ban. Until that information is made clear as to how they controlled for that variable, this is junk.

    • Billiam@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      The KFF survey is linked in the article:

      Opinions on Abortion Policy

      Three in four (75%) women of reproductive age in the United States, the age group that is most directly impacted by state abortion policies, think that abortion should be legal in most or all cases—38% say legal in all cases and 37% legal in most cases.

      Seven in ten reproductive age women (70%) support a law guaranteeing a federal right to abortion, with half (50%) saying they strongly support this

      The majority of women don’t want the issue left to the states, specifically because they want a federal law securing the right to an abortion.

  • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    The Christianist wing of the GOP just don’t get that bodily autonomy is a fundamental human right – not something to be determined by the whims of state legislatures.

    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      The Christianist wing of the GOP just don’t want bodily autonomy. The Handmaid’s Tale is just an extrapolation of their wishes.

      Her motivation for writing the novel was her belief that in the 1980s, the religious right was discussing what they would do with/to women if they took power, including the Moral Majority, the Christian Coalition, and the Ronald Reagan administration. Atwood questions what would happen if these trends, and especially “casually held attitudes about women” were taken to their logical end.

    • Verdant Banana@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      the US touts itself as being a united fifty states but in truth we are fifty different countries all with different ways of governing and different boot choices for the cops that help keep the citizens down

      don’t forget Biden throughout his whole career is on record saying he firmly believes in the Catholic Church and his politics do reflect that

      both parties have tried to push their bible views on the public at large

      • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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        2 months ago

        Some believe in a separation of church and state. Some do not.

        Besides, there is nothing in the Bible about abortion. This is a made up wedge issue created by Pat Robinson during the Reagan years.

        • ickplant@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Well, there is something in the Bible about abortion… it says to give an abortifacient to women suspected of cheating on their husbands. If she miscarried, means she was cheating. If that’s not fucked up, I don’t know what is.

          • qantravon@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 months ago

            Not only that, but according to the Bible, life begins at the first breath taken after birth. Also according to the Bible, the punishment for injuring a woman and causing her to miscarry is the same as for loss of property, which is dramatically different from the punishment for murder.

            Kinda takes the wind out of the “abortion is murder” argument, from a biblical perspective, at least.

      • revelrous@sopuli.xyz
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        2 months ago

        My guy. I live in a deep red area and am very lucky that it is kept in check by the blue state government. I have no idea how the poor fuckers stuck in the bible belt survive it.

        Both sides ain’t the same. Its fucked to begin to suggest so.

      • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        don’t forget Biden throughout his whole career is on record saying he firmly believes in the Catholic Church and his politics do reflect that

        I’m not American. Did Biden limit abortion?

        • revelrous@sopuli.xyz
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          2 months ago

          Not recently, but he used to support the hyde amendment. Which prevented federal funds from being spend on abortion care-low income assistance programs, etc.

          • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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            2 months ago

            Everybody supports Hyde. It’s in every finance bill. You can truthfully say everyone voted for it. Including, for instance, AOC.

            • revelrous@sopuli.xyz
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              2 months ago

              It gets tacked on to that which must pass, yes, but I was under the impression years ago he was a more stalwart supporter of it-which to his credit, he’s done a complete 180 on in recent years.

              • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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                2 months ago

                I guess it really doesn’t matter what your imagined level of support is if you vote for the measure.

                • revelrous@sopuli.xyz
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                  2 months ago

                  Hm. Does this line of argument want me to be displeased with AOC? Or to wave off the disporportional hardship and ruin metered out by Hyde? It’s a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world and I’m gonna haveta to admire AOC and still remember the faces of those would advocate roadblocks to basic rights in the off chance our paths cross in hell. 🤷‍♂️

        • Verdant Banana@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          him along with other Democrats never fully backed it and it has always just been a talking point for them like universal healthcare

          sounds good and the voters are able to chomp on it but the Democrats gum everything never putting teeth in

    • odelik@lemmy.today
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      2 months ago

      I prefer Christofacist Nationalists. It’s more accurate and doesn’t let them fuckers disguise their intents behind some new buzzword dreamed up by the Project 2025 Christian Facism creators.

    • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      The Christianist wing of the GOP just don’t get that bodily autonomy is a fundamental human right

      Illiberal Conservatism is a real and growing threat. And ‘human rights’ are lesser, and entirely insignificant, compared to what those in power say God meant in the Bible.

      Since I realised it, I have never forgotten that applying basic decency to all living beings is a revolutionary act that will be resisted in various ways, including violence, by those who uphold a status quo based on forced inequity.