• fubarx@lemmy.ml
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    29 days ago

    “It’s the best health care in the world."

    Referring to current private healthcare.

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    29 days ago

    How absolutely terrifying. I can’t imagine getting my basic human rights without some rich asshole denying them while taking my money to buy another yacht.

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    28 days ago

    I hate to break it to everyone but she does not currently support single payer nor will her presidency push for it. (At least, that’s the message they’re putting out right now.)

    Never forget that everything Trump says is a lie, even if it’s one you want to believe.

    That said, I think it would be easier to drag her into it than Biden.

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      28 days ago

      I hate to break it to everyone but she does not currently support single payer nor will her presidency push for it.

      Yes, she is a Democrat.

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          28 days ago

          ~~Democrats ~~ Liberals don’t want to push the envelope

          Spineless liberals are losing ground in the party. Status quo and subservience to banks is no longer popular in our party. Progressives are slowly overcoming liberals.

          Liberals want to throw money at problems, ignoring root causes Progressives want to tackle the root causes

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          28 days ago

          If we get supermajorities in the House and Senate it might. Otherwise, you’re probably right. When we have 50 dem senators and one of them is Joe Manchin, well…

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            28 days ago

            Good news is we don’t have to worry about Manchin anymore. Bad news is that’s pretty much a GOP seat now.

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              28 days ago

              Yeah, all the people bitching about Manchin never seem to get that the choice was always Manchin or a far right Republican, not Manchin or a west coast progressive.

              You lost the ability to get anyone left of Manchin out of WV in 2000.

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                Guys, no, we just need to run a far left lefty candidate in WV. This R+40 state is absolutely clamoring to vote for socialism because reasons. The Dems won’t do it, though (both sides bad). Also it has to be a Dem and not a grassroots movement because this R+40 state clamoring to vote for a real socialist needs a socialist with DNC backing before they’ll stop voting for racism.

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                  28 days ago

                  hilarious a state filled with fentanyl addicted welfare-queens is against socialism lol

                  I live near the border. that place is a dystopian redneck hellhole

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                  28 days ago

                  Interestingly enough, WV used to be a safe blue state for most of the state’s history. Literally Gore ruined that.

                  Because they weren’t blue due to progressive social policy, they were blue because of the unions. Gore went after the biggest union industries in the state, and no Dem since has thought how to fix it.

                  Of all people, Bernie did really well in the 2016 primary, but since Clinton got ~35% compared to Bernie’s ~53% she of course got a majority of our state’s delegates (by one).

                  If you wanted to get a Dem to poll well here, you’d have to drop the gun stuff almost entirely (a lot of rural folks and a lot of hunters, a lot of woods full of wild animals [and those woods are directly adjacent to most populated areas - the entire state is forested mountains], etc), not lead with the progressive social justice stuff (not denounce it, not ignore it, just not treat it as the top priority and focus of your message - it’s there but it’s not what you’re selling yourself on), and then double down on working class concerns (this should be what you lead with and emphasize). Think something adjacent to social populism.

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                Yeah well if it’s anything like the Democrats were in Arizona until recently the state party is basically defunct. You’ll have professional politicians running against single issue school teachers. The DNC is not good with reaching out to help state parties. A large part of the reason the GOP hasn’t died from going far right is the Democrats seem happy to let them have rural states without any fight. Which of course means the people there only get one political point of view too.

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                  We have elected officials literally making up lies about teachers here to get them fired. Our sheriff got away with it because he is immune. They used our tax dollars to pay her off he wouldn’t have to get embarrassed in court before re-election

                  He is a hardcore Trumper

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      She does, she has discussed a number of methods of doing so, from expanding medicaid to all Americans, to doing a few other methods of basically using the government as payee, and negotiator, for insurance coverage that will be applied to every tax payer.

      Will she really do anything? Yet to be seen.

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        28 days ago

        Remember too that the President doesn’t write the laws, and pretty much every solution for a single payer healthcare solution involves legislation.

        Blaming or crediting a President for something that only Congress can do is a long American tradition, and an exceptionally stupid one we need to get over.

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          Oh, by doing something, I don’t mean I think she would just make this law. I mean seeing her doing all she can, within her power, to accomplish this goal. Many have promised such reforms, then did little, to nothing, with the position, to accomplish that task.

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    28 days ago

    Oh dear god, You mean I’d finally have coverage, like an actual first world nation, to get my hereditary issues looked at, and treated?

    DEAR GOD, THE INHUMANITY OF IT ALL.

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      28 days ago

      During a rambling press conference at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, Trump said of Harris, “She cosponsored legislation to abolish very popular private health insurance, which 150 [million] Americans rely on, dumping everyone onto inferior socialist government run health care systems with rationing and deadly wait times, while massively raising your taxes. She wants to take away your private health care.

      “It’s the best health care in the world,” he continued, adding, “You’re all going to be thrown into a communist system … You’re going to be thrown into a system where everybody gets health care.”

      She’s going to give you the bad health care. The kind that the foreigners and the blah people get. You’re not going to receive the special elite luxury care. You’re going to get the same care as everyone else.

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        It was always a war cry for the elites. “You won’t be able to buy superior healthcare anymore. You’ll have to wait like the rest of the plebs”.

        We already have ridiculous wait times. I got told by my doctor that I couldn’t reschedule my appointment because it was booked out 2 months. I had to reschedule because the office was closed for a week due to a fucking Hurricane.

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          28 days ago

          And lets not even start about the state of seeing either specialists or especially mental healthcare.

          Brain is acting funny and flooding you with feel-bad chemicals every day and it’s impacting your life to the degree that some days you don’t even want to live in a constant state of despair for no reason? “Sorry, that will be three months to see a psychiatrist, try thinking positive and taking walks!”

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        28 days ago

        You mean like medicare/medicaid?

        I know people on both, they get fantastic healthcare.

        Its a lot better than the big bowl of fuckall nothing I got now.

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          28 days ago

          You mean like medicare/medicaid?

          The conservative theory is that Medicaid is shit and will kill your mum.

          Medicare is gold, but it only works if we ration it for Boomers exclusively.

          If you “steal” private health insurance to pay for Medicaid, you’re basically murdering people. If you open the doors to Medicare, you’ll use up all the good medicine and “swamp the boat” as it were, ruining it for everyone currently on the plan.

          Its a lot better than the big bowl of fuckall nothing I got now

          Obviously, you don’t need health care. You just need better bootstraps and a stronger pull.