If I recall correctly Gore (probably) won with a full state wide recount, but in the counties he asked for he ironically (probably) would have ended up losing.
That’s how I understand it, based on what was reported regarding the four county recounts and media orgs doing research after the fact at a statewide level. But not just any recount - a recount using different rules for undervotes than were used for the original count and previous recount. Them wanting to do that was part of the crux of Bush v Gore - using different rules for certain counties than others violates equal protection.
Or fix the butterfly ballot issue.
Doing that would require re-running the election entirely, which definitely wasn’t possible in the 5 days from when Gore started his final partial recount to the election deadline, especially since two of those were a weekend.
That doesn’t really answer the final question though. Is it going to be called Election Day like 7 of the 11? The day after(or really the morning after) like 2004 or 2016? Is it going to last days like 2020? Or weeks like in 2000?
Depends on how many recounts get called for and how many absentee ballots there are. 2020 was unique in terms of the sheer scale of absentee ballots, which extended the count. Trump also fought as much as he could legally for as long as he could, though that didn’t really take the form of continuing recounts like it did with Gore.
I’m going to go with a couple of days for an initial count (either late day after or day after that, depending on number of absentee ballots), add at least a week if anywhere is particularly close (can trigger automatic recounts and are prime targets for candidates to request recounts). If Trump loses, then it depends how much of his lawfare against the election involves recounts if it stops there or not. If Harris loses, expect a few targeted recounts as well if anywhere is kinda close.
Either way I know two things for certain: Harris will win the popular vote, if for no other reason than because she’s going to win California by a large enough margin that she could lose every other state by a margin within believable reason and still win the popular vote. And roughly a sixth or so of the country is going to claim the election was hacked, cheated or stolen in some fashion (basically a large minority of the losing party) regardless of who wins.
That’s how I understand it, based on what was reported regarding the four county recounts and media orgs doing research after the fact at a statewide level. But not just any recount - a recount using different rules for undervotes than were used for the original count and previous recount. Them wanting to do that was part of the crux of Bush v Gore - using different rules for certain counties than others violates equal protection.
Doing that would require re-running the election entirely, which definitely wasn’t possible in the 5 days from when Gore started his final partial recount to the election deadline, especially since two of those were a weekend.
Depends on how many recounts get called for and how many absentee ballots there are. 2020 was unique in terms of the sheer scale of absentee ballots, which extended the count. Trump also fought as much as he could legally for as long as he could, though that didn’t really take the form of continuing recounts like it did with Gore.
I’m going to go with a couple of days for an initial count (either late day after or day after that, depending on number of absentee ballots), add at least a week if anywhere is particularly close (can trigger automatic recounts and are prime targets for candidates to request recounts). If Trump loses, then it depends how much of his lawfare against the election involves recounts if it stops there or not. If Harris loses, expect a few targeted recounts as well if anywhere is kinda close.
Either way I know two things for certain: Harris will win the popular vote, if for no other reason than because she’s going to win California by a large enough margin that she could lose every other state by a margin within believable reason and still win the popular vote. And roughly a sixth or so of the country is going to claim the election was hacked, cheated or stolen in some fashion (basically a large minority of the losing party) regardless of who wins.