A mother of two has been left paraplegic after being shot by Iranian police over an alleged violation of the country’s strict hijab rules, a source with knowledge of the case has told the BBC.
“She is paralysed from the waist down, and doctors have said it will take months to determine whether she will be permanently paraplegic or not.”
Arezoo Badri, 31, was driving home with her sister in the northern city of Noor on 22 July when police attempted to pull her over to confiscate her car.
The driver did not comply with the order to stop, prompting the officers to shoot, the police commander in Noor told Iran’s state-run news agency, without naming Ms Badri.
The incident comes after Iranian police announced a clampdown on women defying the nation’s compulsory dress code.
Fuck america I’m going to iran
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This is so sad and should not have happened
Non Muslim Lives Matter? :)
What are you talking about?
I don’t know if I’m mentally strong enough to be a paraplegic.
Nobody is until it happens
So many things in my life would become sooo much shittier though. Like playing with my kids, riding a bike, all the sports I do, fixing things around the home… sex… 🫣 I’m so scared of having a broken body.
Ehhhh.
Iran: Woman left paraplegic after being shot by police over hijab
Okay, that sounds pretty unequivocal.
Arezoo Badri, 31, was driving home with her sister in the northern city of Noor on 22 July when police attempted to pull her over to confiscate her car.
The driver did not comply with the order to stop, prompting the officers to shoot, the police commander in Noor told Iran’s state-run news agency, without naming Ms Badri.
It is unclear whether Ms Badri was wearing a headscarf when she was stopped by police, but her car had a confiscation notice against it - suggesting multiple alleged violations of the hijab law.
So it’s possible, albeit not known, that she had previously violated the hijab law. And that’s why they were pulling her over.
But that’s not why they shot at her. She got shot because she didn’t stop the vehicle.
Like, you could say “shot for refusing to stop”, and I’d agree with that. Maybe someone would find that unreasonable as a matter of police procedure. I don’t know what the legal standards are for use-of-force in Iran. In the US, I’m reasonably sure that that’d violate law enforcement protocol in most states. A police officer can’t use deadly force just for not following an order; there are situations where it is possible to do so.
kagis
Yeah:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule
Under U.S. law the fleeing felon rule was limited in 1985 to non-lethal force in most cases by Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1. The justices held that deadly force “may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others.”[2]
A police officer may not seize an unarmed, nondangerous suspect by shooting him dead…however…Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force.
— Justice Byron White, Tennessee v. Garner[3]
If a suspect drives a car at an officer, the car is considered to be a deadly weapon, and it’s okay for police to use deadly force then.
But my guess is that just a refusal to stop, without some additional circumstances, wouldn’t result in authorization to use deadly force anywhere in the present-day US.
I can imagine someone saying that they think that Iran’s use-of-deadly-force law should be more-restrictive.
But I don’t think that this is reasonable to reduce this to “shot by police over hijab”.
It’s true that in the situation and country, this is equivalent to someone fleeing a traffic stop when they remember they have warrants. Authority figure gonna do what they’re enlisted to do, because it’s their perogative and their “duty” (and I mean duty in the sense of being bound to their personal theology)
But yet, would either of those situations would cause said authority to use deadly force? Of course not.
Iran is a back asswards country. The US is shit in its own ways as well, I won’t refute, it’s a mess. But Iran has to literally be babysat by larger economic powers around the clock to keep them from cooking up doomsday doodads.
Getting this bent out of shape over women wanted to drive, get a proper education, vote, or fucking not wearing a piece of cloth, just furthers the sentiment that somewhere along the male Iranian genealogy some chromosomes got lost.
(Side note, I don’t reread these so I apologize if anything sounds purposefully directed at specific groups. I harbor no hate towards the Iranian peoples, all hate is meant to be interpreted to whatever zealots churn up all this religious hoo-hah)
Women have been beaten to death by police before for violating hijab law, I don’t blame her for not stopping.
I think the idea is the misleading title is classic of western propaganda to incite hate and iranphobia. They do the same for all middle Eastern countries. You might not see it, but it is clear as day for people who live there.
Did the same with Libya, Iraq, Sudan before the split and leaders dying but nothing after. It is these small inaccuracies in the title that keep building up.
Yeah if she had already been warned, there’s good reason she might have feared for her life if she stopped.
Fucked either way
Fuck the morality police.
Isn’t that supposed to be us? I feel pretty morally superior to those guys.
So much worse than being shot at randomly by police or even just in your own home when they bust in by mistake like they do in the USA. At least in America you have the freedom to be murdered or disabled by police for no reason at all, not just because of what you’re wearing. Freedom.
Oh no, a “uSa BaD tOo” idiot.
On the block list you go!
This wasn’t a strawman, it was a whataboutism.
Why the fuck do you have to make this about the US? Are you incapable of commenting on atrocities in other countries without a US centric worldview?
It’s quite an irony, isn’t it? In trying to constantly bring up US problems, you’ve adopted a worldview where only the US matters.
Because the majority of idiots on here have no idea how the rest of the world operates. They see an article like this and do not connect the dots.
You’re brainwashed.
He’s an asset.
And now you’ve graduated to someone who says the vast majority are idiots who can’t see the truth and don’t connect the dots.
Now you’re not only someone who’s incapable of thinking about anything other than America, you’re also a conspiracy nut.
Don’t you remember being 15? Your view of the world expands from the middle out. When you are that age everything is still contextualized via your personal experience, but you are also just starting to really become aware of all the evil in the world.
True. It’s up to us elders though to remind them to think straight.
Could we actually stay at least somewhat on topic?
The topic is being shot by police for no reason.
The western propaganda is that it is a horror when it happens elsewhere like Iran. It’s just a Tuesday when it happens every fcking day in the USA.
If you don’t see the topics are the same, you’re brainwashed.
But we’re talking about Iran and it’s horrible religion and religious oppression, not the US and it’s dumpster fire of issues.
This has nothing to do with religious oppression. It is bad policing. The US is as much a theocracy, a Christian theocracy, as Iran is.
Good one
Which one would you rather live in? Or would rather your sister/gf/wife live in?
100% middle East.
And I practice what I preach unlike most of you keyboard warriors that don’t even a passport. The other side of the planet is NOTHING like you portray in your propagandist media. And you’re all too brainwashed to even look for yourselves.
*looks at username*
Oh, you’re a techbro. Of course you’re unhinged.
*Iranian police
cops is cops is cops is cops. they’re all bastards. do we really think the iranian ones are meaningfully different guys than the american ones? than the chinese ones?
I think if you stripped them of superficial cultural signifiers, they would be indistinguishable.
Conservatism is a global plague of oppression and death. There is no place for hate-based ideologies like conservatism in a modern civilization.
Nothing ‘conservative’ about it
This is the definition of conservative.
They’re enforcing a rule that’s over 1000 years old on penalty of death. And the rule makes no logical sense.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.
One of their favorite strings of words to say while being almost indistinguishable from the worst fascists in history is “I’m a moderate”.
That’s a form of truly psychotic delusion.
Except to hate conservatism.
Literally, yes.
Here’s a great mini comic that explains that paradox I picked up a while ago:
I don’t think this comic explains it well. I don’t like the “it is a paradox but we just have to make an exception” approach. A better solution to the paradox of tolerance is to explain that it isn’t a paradox at all, that tolerance is a contract, not an absolute rule. A tolerant society agrees to tolerate you so long as you tolerate others, and if you violate the contract you lose its’ protection.
Funniest part of this is that I have seen many fascists use this to claim that their opposition is the intolerant ones, while others say that kicking out any group is going to provoke them to be ultra violent so they need to let them do as they please…
Unless that group is antifa. They want the machine guns on them.
The sooner the Islamic Regime in Tehran falls the better. The Iranian people deserve freedom.
Yes makes sense, shooting people for not wearing cloth over their face.
You know, if we are going back to medieval times, can we bring out stuff like guillotines? I got a few smelly Iranian leaders I want to play with.
According to the article police opened fire at the car because she refused to stop when they tried to pull the car over. Which is just as unacceptable (to my European mind it’s ridiculous police carry firearms), but contrary to the title there is no indication what she was wearing had anything to do with it. In fact the article says her windows were tinted so the police couldn’t know what she was wearing.
It’s not just medieval. Sargon of Akkad started instituting that shit millennia ago. It is embedded in the region and has infected a good chunk of the world. Islam is just one vector; ancient greeks passed the same patriarchal idea of women’s behaviour determining male honour into christianity too.
that entire family of religions is an urgent civilizational problems, gotta get rid of that shit.
What would humanity be without religion?
Probably a lot better off
definitely better off, the magnitude is the only question.
More honest. Could possibly be a disaster.
Police in the US:
I don’t get it 🙂
“What is this? A cross-over episode?”
Just to remind ourselves that this woman is paraplegic because the US had to send in the CIA to orchestrate a coup in order to remove its democratically elected president and put a fundamentalist religious nutcase Shah in power that was more friendly to the US, which like all CIA ventures, failed miserably and he ended up being overthrown by worse religious nutcases shortly after, which is regarded as a direct consequence of US involvement.
Thank you US, for our daily misery all across the world, but especially for turning the middle east into the misery it is today. We will remember it all throughout the likely war between Iran and Israel that the democratically elected governments of the US purposefully worked towards for the last 50 years, by both directly destabilizing Iran and by arming and funding Israel and the Palestinian apartheid and genocide.
I just wonder how much worse the world has to become until the US just stops “helping”.
You seem confused. The Shah was a relatively secular liberal. He was overthrown by the fundies who are in power now.
The argument is that if Iran had been allowed to keep its original government and not had one imposed upon it, the conditions that resulted in the Islamic Revolution would not have been created and the fundies never would have taken power.
yeah the person you’re replying to is sorta wrong, but also not
see, the CIA helped him hunt down and murder all the left opposition, both genuinely good and well intentioned puppets of moscow, so when his horrible shit finally pushed the people past their breaking point, the only people with any level of organization to create a new regime were THESE FUCKS. the CIA knew this was a risk, and SHOULD have known this was inevitable, after the shit they pulled.
and the shah was their puppet, put in after they took out the previously extant democracy. so saying the cia didn’t do this is like saying I didn’t break the delicate glass flower I threw at a wall.
US police have gunned down 48 women last year and 37 so far this year so they’re just sharing their love of murdering people with police around the world
also, they helped him torture and kill and dismantle all the left opposition, all the organized good guys or well intentioned assholes who wanted him out, so it was only THESE FUCKS left when the people finally broke.
the fucking source of all fascism is the american empire.
The tried and true bot everything bad because USA … do you argue that things would be fundamentally better or worse today if the USA had never been involved? Half these commie ML troll bots on the internet keep spitting out the same old crap. Profit bad. Bad. Bad. They ignore the fact that a woman got shot for wearing a head scarf. You going to blame that on the USA? Get out of here with that crap.
I’m not a communist. I don’t agree with communism. I’m European. We hate communism. I joined ML because people said it doesn’t matter what instance you join in the tutorials but mentioned one should avoid lemmy.world because it was oversaturated with reddit refugees and lemmy.ml was at the top. I never knew there was this much instance bigotry and tribalism on lemmy, but i am honestly apalled by this culture. That’s the only reason. My post history is public, go read if you see anything about communism, bot propaganda activity or whatever strawmen you’re building there because your arguments are insufficient.
And yes, things in the middle east would have been considerably better without CIA interventions. Americans want to wash their hands off it because what, it happened 50 years ago, when it was proven in 2020 by dna of a US green beret the US had special forces try the same in Venezuela ?
Look at Afghanistan right now, it would have been leagues better if the US hadn’t been there for 20 years. Now it’s under the US (previously, when known as Mujahideen) funded taliban. If you know your history, none of this should come as a surprise. But yeah, it was the headscarf and profit and America bad for sure. Everything but taking responsibility for what the US is still doing right now. I’m not anti American culture and people or even economic doctrine, I’m anti policy. Creating an implication between capitalism and instigating officially unsanctioned political destabilization of foreign governments is an intellectually lazy and dishonest argument.
What the CIA has done and is doing is wrong and brought us here, and it’s acting vastly with impunity and being excused by people like you. I’m not against you. I’m against people giving the place you live in a bad name with your taxes. Acting all defensive and petulant like I’m attacking your culture personally is just silly, when you know many patriotic Americans would agree with my criticism of the actions of the CIA and military interventions overseas.
My tone was a bit over the top and I generalized regarding instances. For that I will apologize.
The USA is an “easy target” because it’s incredibly active in the world stage. Very few nations have the resources available to it to do what the USA is capable of doing. With that said this is the classic man in the arena argument – the USA is most certainly in the arena and there are good and bad things that come with it. I believe your argument to be reductionist at best – USA bad because XYZ. There’s a whole hell of a lot more to it than that. So you’ve mentioned Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan. What about long, successful alliances between USA with Jordan, Egypt, Israel (hot button I know), and Saudi Arabia.
The struggle in the region today is very much Iran and Saudi Arabia throwing their weight around and many groups of people are caught in the middle. USA included. Israel was on a path to discuss normalization of relations with Saudi Arabia and suddenly that is not a thing anymore. Hrm. Convenient. Wonder why?
Things are not as simple as you make it out to be. It takes two to tango.
Alright, thank you for explaining your opinion to me. You’re right, while i still maintain my position that i disagree with US policy in this regard, i do recognize that a lot of those countries’ actions also contributed to the current situation.
And i also recognize that when criticism arises in Lemmy, in particular from certain Lemmy instances, there is a lot of propaganda and anti American sentiment, which i also find grating. Nevertheless I’d like to clarify that I’m not anti American and i do not think America is bad. I consider this statement reductionist of the entire combined work of 330 million people, as you said, and i would like to clarify that i meant that this specific course of action in this circumstance is bad, not the country, nor the people of the US.
This criticism does not mean to disqualify the US of praise where praise is otherwise due, of course, although i would not agree that the outcomes of Israel relations were positive, but that is another matter altogether that i think would escape the purview of the criticism of CIA actions.
I apologize for expressing myself in such a black and white way and I’ll try to be more mindful of reminding myself of expressing more nuance in future comments and be clearer of who and what specifically i am criticizing.
You were the polite one and I was the rude one. No need for you to apologize.
Appreciate the discussion. Hopefully the world we leave is a better place than when we were born into it.
