I’m 40, and when I was a teenager, EVERY band had CDs. And I know a lot of music has shifted to digital. So much so that I heard Best buy stopped selling CDs. Presumably because nobody buys them.
So I wonder what musicians sell besides t-shirts and posters at concerts. Do the kids have ANY CDs? Do they buy mp3’s? Do they just use pandora and spotify? Do they even own their own music?
I’ve given up on trying to understand the lingo. Other generations lingo sounds stupid to me, but still understandable based on context.
I have NO idea what a skibifibi toilet is…sounds like a toilet after some taco bell and untalented jazz, but maybe I can try to understand their thought process on media consumption.
No, definitely not. I buy music off of bandcamp occasionally, to support the artist and get the cool swag that comes with the album, but I don’t physically have a way to play cds.
I’ve bought usb drives with music and pictures and tabs. I don’t trust usbs anymore, but I would be open to buy a code for downloads.
I’ve gotten a free CD at a concert recently. I don’t have anything to play it on.
Do you have a game console? Uhhhh…besides Switch I guess.
Also, to touch on the other questions in the post, I have an Apple Music Subscription, but do have about 50 GB of flac files of my favourite music mirrored to most of my devices, in case I’m holed up somewhere without Internet access.
I have a switch emulator on my pc. Ones for other consoles too. Don’t see much added value in a physical console, since I need a reasonably powerful PC for work anyway.
I dug out my Wii for it once… Which probably proves im not a young person anymore
Could the Wii even play audio cd’s???
It had the capability (as with DVDs), so as long as you’ve got a modded Wii and the right homebrew software, yes!
Ahhhh not stock, only via mods… I have the black “unhackable” Wii :(
Yep, last time I owned a CD drive was two laptops ago, around 2016 or so…
Yeah, I don’t own anything that can play optical media. When downloading MP3s became a thing I just stopped using CDs.
Get an external drive, it’s useful to have lying around for those rare occasions where you have something on an optical disc.
Omg come to my house! I have a computer dvd-drive and a 4k drive for ripping. I have 3 gaming consoles with disc drives. And I have 9 portable CD players and 3 portable DVD players.
I am a collector. I have a hobby of making my own CDs, DVDs and Blu-rays.
What 4K drive do you have, and how do you like it?
It’s an Archgon Md-8107-U3. I got specifically because the firmware could be updated to allow ripping with programs like Make-MKV. Works great.
That does sound fun. How far from Berlin are you, in rough terms? Can I walk over, or is it more of a cycling distance?
I’m about 6000km from Berlin I’m afraid.
Yeah, that’s a bit of a hike, probably would throw my plans for the week.
I’ll bring the pizza and some two liters! Who wants what?
I remember being in high school about 15 years ago and going to a show where a band was selling music on a flash drive. That felt so clever, since the world was just starting to ditch CDs at the time.
I didn’t really answer your question at all though, sorry lol. I don’t think many people buy. Some people collect stuff but it’s probably analog/vinyl, not CDs.
This might answer some of your questions. Music isn’t the same. It’s mass produced entertainment that we can browse at our fingertips with infinite options. Music devalued itself by being so accessible and throwaway.
I mean…it didn’t answer my question per se, but it was a great insight into where an industry is, and how they got there.
I saw a 12 minute run time on the video, and thought “I’m not going to watch this whole thing…”
But the man makes great points.
In the 90s, if you played video games, and you played an SNES RPG, those were typically very text heavy, story driven games. The memory on an SNES cartridge was very data limited. So you couldn’t have a 9,000 page script. It simply wouldn’t fit on the memory allowed.
So developers would write a first draft, and find out they were over limit. So they’d cut it down by 30%. Find out they’re STILL over the limit. Cut it down by 5% and NOW it fits. Just barely.
And what you ended up with was a direct, straight to the point story that hits its plot points in a very matter of fact way. You get an oversaterated story that makes sense, and is pure plot. They cut the fat.
What I’m saying here is that limitations are frustrating, and require more effort to work around, but they also breed creativity. And that seems to be the main point this guy is making now with music. Sinatra is dead, his music three quarters of a century old, and still feel timeless. He had barrels of creative limitations, and he overcame them.
Or, not discussed here is Bethoven. I’m not even sure he was ever able to record any of his music himself, but he recorded the sheet music. Which means anytime you hear Bethovens work, you’re technically hearing a cover song. Yet despite not having a way to distribute his music, his works are still timeless centuries later.
But this video discussed more about music production from the manufacturers viewpoint. Fascinating stuff for sure, but I’m more interested in knowing from a young consumers viewpoint.
Although, I will admit, his video reminded me of Green Day. Simply because my sister bought me my first CD in 1994. I was 10. It was Green Days Dookie. I can remember listening to that cd over and over and over, studying the box art and booklette, just like this guy said.
Man, I started answering you and realized I am also 40 and…yeah.
But, were I to go to a show, a CD? Nah. But a sticker or socks or something, certainly.
I would buy their vinyl though! I’m also in my 40s, never listened to records before 2023. I jumped on the bandwagon and haven’t looked back. Something about all that effort to listen to 22 minutes of music and getting to enjoy an entire album is just fun.
What’s your setup, and do you find that the sound quality is superior to streaming or physical media?
I’m by no means an audiophile, I just have a Victrola I bought at Best Buy and run through my Bose sound bar using the headphone jack. I wouldn’t say it is better audio, but the highs don’t hurt my ears as much as digital music does.
I’m in my 40s too. I usually look for vinyl, if I’m inclined to buy music at a show.
Some bands I see sell cassette tapes and vinyl records at their shows. These tend to be heavy metal bands. There’s a niche interest in physical media in music, and it’s mostly for analog mediums.
I like it when they do that and also give you a free digital download code so you get both.
CD without download code is a rip off.
Wait…do people not rip mp3s from cds anymore?
well we do because we r old and know that Audio CD quality is superior to MP3’s. But young people don’t even have a CD drive. TBH this is the best way to build your music collection. Buy original CDs off discogs for like 1$ and rip them.
Im 25 so slowly leaving the young person sphere, but I do have CDs and I did buy some at concerts.
Im a metalhead, so it was mostly for metal bands, and maybe this is specific for this genre, but every show i went to, I saw CDs being sold. I think out of 20-25 concerts, i bought 5-6 CDs, that i mostly listen to in my car. Two of them were signed by the band, so this was one more reason to buy it.
When I don’t listen to metal, im into folk, rap or electro. I do have some folk CDs, that i listen to with my parents. But for rap and electro, everything happens online. My brother released a first rap EP, and printing on a CD was a very distant option for him and his crew, like ‘this would be cool but that’ s too much for now’. On the opposite, my friend who have a metal band immediatly started a crowdfunding to get their first EP printed on a small scale
I can’t say for fact you’ll like this band, buuuuuuut…you’ll like this band.
Haha you’re right I do Thx for sharing this :D
Just know, the reason Johney Knoxville opens the album is because
- this was released in 2004, and it’s very of its time,
And
- One of the official band members, and the guy holding this whole band together was Ryan Dunn. Who’s official role in the band was drink onstage the whole show, and sing for like 3 lines. But he’s the one who was friends with everyone. The band kind of silently went their own seperate ways after he died.
PSA: All that crap after the ? is tracking bs and unnecessary so really your link only needs to be this long:
Upvoted for useful info! Thanks brother!
I almost always buy a vinyl. Great artwork, lasts forever, makes putting a great album on a special occassion.
Do the kids have ANY CDs? Do they buy mp3’s? Do they just use pandora and spotify? Do they even own their own music?
Yeah, from what I tend to hear from teenagers, I don’t think most of them own their music.
The thing with CDs or MP3s is that it takes time for you to build up a collection. If you got started on that before streaming services took off, it’s probably worth listening to.But if you’re starting from scratch today, you’re basically deciding between listening to one or two albums in your collection vs. all the music you can imagine for a monthly fee. The value proposition of the latter is then just hard to beat.
I believe, streaming services generally don’t allow you to add your own MP3s into the mix either, so even if you get a cool CD/MP3s from a local band that’s not on these streaming services, then there’s still not much you can do with that.
Spotify at least does allow you to add local files on a computer, and they even sync tracks to your phone when they are on an offline playlist when the devices are on the same network. I’ve done that myself to get some otherwise unavailable songs into my catalogue, and am thinking of starting the move to owning all my music that way
Nkt exactly young anymore, but I would and I do. Music you don’t own can disappear any day on the whims of a company. I don’t like that.
I’m not a younger person but I used to collect vinyl and had to quit because the younger crowd got really into it and the ensuing popularity led to prices going nuts. 10 years ago it was crate digging for $1 records and new releases for $10-15 and now it’s crate digging for $5-10 and new releases for $40-60. Fuck that.
That said before I bowed out I saw plenty of artists also release on cassette and cd as well as vinyl. Those formats weren’t as popular as vinyl but still were popular, likely for one of the reasons I originally got into collecting physical media for cheap. The vinyl releases would be $40 but the cd would be $15 and the cassette would be $9.
Of course, you lose the other main reason which is the vinyl often has superior mastering to cd/web sources but I honestly don’t think a lot of the new releases are being listened to anyway. But that starts the whole diatribe about the new generation buying up vinyl to either never listen to it or to spin it on a shitty $40 record player that will wreck the disc over time. And people always looooove hearing about that lmao
The whole thing got really scummy too. The price rises were initially because the popularity caught labels off guard and pressing plants couldn’t keep up, especially during covid. But more have opened since then and they can press crazy amounts. They have just recognized they can gouge fans for $50+ dollars plus shipping for a single disc LP because they got away with it for a brief period. Plus then they quickly learned the hype tricks and now that shit is everywhere. Every album is “limited edition, only 1/3000” except then you look on discogs and there are 4800 registered. And then there’s 20 variants of the album for you to collect, show your support to Taylor or king gizzard and buy them all. It’s like funko pops except music. Don’t forget that there’s a limited run of 1000 signed copies! They’re not actually signed, they come with a little art card that’s signed and it’s probably signed by an intern but whatever, $75 for the album that’s normally $40 because you believe Olivia Rodrigo touched it for 3 seconds.
Totally gross consumerism but that seems to be what zoomers get shoved down their throats at all times. I thought us millennials got it bad because we had like constant product placement and advertising everywhere and boy bands and shit but man, they really fucked the zoomers even worse
22 here, the only device in my apparent rn featuring a CD or DVD drive is an old ass iMac my gf intends to gut and put a mac mini inside just for fun, aka, likely disabling the DVD drive :(
We also probably have an external DVD reader in some drawer…
Considering we have like 5+ laptops and 2 desktops here, I’d say that says it all.
I predominantly download my music from bandcamp and my gf mainly uses Spotify.
I’m not even a younger person, but when I got a new computer case a couple of years ago I moved my blu-ray drive from the old one and ended up using a dodgy sata cable or something because it doesn’t show up
I told myself I’d fix it when I needed to read a disk.
That day has not yet come
